丸山貴雄為何拿不下 WC 冠軍

[lelo]

我起個新討論串好了 ...

If you look at the chart again, we have male around 180-190. That's not far from normal male weight, even when compare to Asian 180-190 is not abnormal (I'm 190lb). US female team is obviously on the heavy side if you compare to Asia women. :)

你那個是美國亞洲人的標準，可不是亞洲的亞洲人標準。
亞洲人不是喝牛奶吃牛肉長大的！

至於為什麼要取這個標題，是因為 carver 曾經問過這個問題，
http://www.ski.com.tw/modules/newbb/vie ... 54&forum=1

我給了他這個網頁，
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/data/meikan ... index.html
下了個結論說，因為丸山貴雄體重不夠。

我想你會有更好的解答。

[Vicente]

我起個新討論串好了 ...



你那個是美國亞洲人的標準，可不是亞洲的亞洲人標準。
亞洲人不是喝牛奶吃牛肉長大的！

至於為什麼要取這個標題，是因為 carver 曾經問過這個問題，
http://www.ski.com.tw/modules/newbb/vie ... 54&forum=1

我給了他這個網頁，
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/data/meikan ... index.html
下了個結論說，因為丸山貴雄體重不夠。

我想你會有更好的解答。

過旗門(竿), 要體重.
skier動量 momentum 被旗門(竿)消掉了 .

[B2L2]

Looking at the chart, for 190 lb and up male skiers, they are mostly over 6 feet tall, and I bet that they are all muscles and very little fat.

Also have you seen most of the women WC skiers that their thigh must be at least twice as big as 'normal' Asia girls of the same height.

Doing GS, SG or downhill requires, not only techniques, but stamina and physical strength as well.

Quoting Observer's reply on the other thread.

Back to why 丸山貴雄為何拿不下 WC 冠軍. The simplest answer is that he isn't fast enough. Sorry just joking.

丸山貴雄 being technical strong doesn't always mean he could do well in racing. Two different techniques and two different ball games. To ski the way he is doing now, a lot of those skills are not for speed purpose only.

I heard that most of the Japanese technical skiers are having race training since their youth. So compare to other snow countries, they still have a shorter season for training. Also I "think" ski hill in Japan in generate is smaller compare to other snow countries. That's another limitation to their training.

To say that 丸山貴雄拿不下 WC 冠軍 all because of his weight isn't the best I consider.

過旗門(竿) needs that much force, really? I never touch those pole, but I thought they were mean to be flexible.

[pku]

我起個新討論串好了 ...



你那個是美國亞洲人的標準，可不是亞洲的亞洲人標準。
亞洲人不是喝牛奶吃牛肉長大的！

至於為什麼要取這個標題，是因為 carver 曾經問過這個問題，
http://www.ski.com.tw/modules/newbb/vie ... 54&forum=1

我給了他這個網頁，
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/data/meikan ... index.html
下了個結論說，因為丸山貴雄體重不夠。

我想你會有更好的解答。

I am pretty sure 丸山貴雄 got a racing background but are you sure he's in the national alpine team of Japan before. If he was not the top racer of Japan, then you should change the title to " Why Japanese Racer can win the WC "

[pku]

過旗門(竿), 要體重.
skier動量 momentum 被旗門(竿)消掉了 .

Only GS and Shalom need to hit the gates and these 2 events are more technical especially Shalom. A smaller guy can do well also.

The Downhill and super G need big and strong body to resist the force.

[Vicente]

Only GS and Shalom need to hit the gates and these 2 events are more technical especially Shalom. A smaller guy can do well also.

The Downhill and super G need big and strong body to resist the force.

To hit the gate sounds small force, but if you accumulate for several times you may find out that it becomes noticeable. I learn from WB conductor.

[pku]

To hit the gate sounds small force, but if you accumulate for several times you may find out that it becomes noticeable. I learn from WB conductor.

Japan alpine ski team got the best result in Slalom, the hitting gate one

http://www.ski-db.com/nats/stats/JPN_skiteam.asp

[Observer]

When non-collapsible gates were changed to collapsible gates years ago, slalom racing was changed completely.

One used to ski rounder turns around the gates and if one ski too close to the gates by clipping it, one risk the resistance of the gates slower one down.

With the collapsible slalom gates, the whole game has changed. The skis go around the gate, but the body goes directly at the gate - thus a much shorter distance of the ski path. And the skier wears all the protection and gear to knock down the gates.

But for GS, it is a different since one still has to ski around the gates that has piece of cloth between two poles, and clipping it real hard may even cause delay.

To reach the top of the WC standing is difficult since there are so many countries and elite skiers competing. A fraction of a second on the 2 runs combined may separate the top 3 skiers.

I suspect that, especially for GS, SG and downhill, a stronger physical build and strong legs has the advantage because of the tremendous G force that builds up during the high speed turns.

[lelo]

I am pretty sure 丸山貴雄 got a racing background but are you sure he's in the national alpine team of Japan before. If he was not the top racer of Japan, then you should change the title to " Why Japanese Racer can win the WC "

如果丸山貴雄不是國家代表隊，那問題可以換成，丸山貴雄為何不是國家代表隊？
這是雞生蛋或蛋生雞的問題。

[pku]

如果丸山貴雄不是國家代表隊，那問題可以換成，丸山貴雄為何不是國家代表隊？
這是雞生蛋或蛋生雞的問題。

One need to go into the national team before get into the WC circuit.

丸山貴雄為何不是國家代表隊

That's pretty simple: he can't ski fast enough in gates to beat other racers.

Technical skiing is not only speed. also about other things but racing only about shortest time running the gates.

[lelo]

One need to go into the national team before get into the WC circuit.

丸山貴雄為何不是國家代表隊

That's pretty simple: he can't ski fast enough in gates to beat other racers.

你忘了一個前提，丸山貴雄是日本的技術選手權得主，也就是說他的滑雪技術是獲保證的，所以 carver 才會問，為什麼這麼好的技術拿不到 WC 冠軍？

[skier888]

你忘了一個前提，丸山貴雄是日本的技術選手權得主，也就是說他的滑雪技術是獲保證的，所以 carver 才會問，為什麼這麼好的技術拿不到 WC 冠軍？

也許WC不是只有靠技術就能贏

[pku]

你忘了一個前提，丸山貴雄是日本的技術選手權得主，也就是說他的滑雪技術是獲保證的，所以 carver 才會問，為什麼這麼好的技術拿不到 WC 冠軍？

There is no mogul skiing in Alpine Ski Race but moguls is included in the technical competition. The way they ski is more like a demonstraor ( the highest level of an instructor. )

Judges give points. Alpine skiing calculate time.

The first guy wearing blue jacket was in the National Team of Japan if I didn't make a mistake

YouTube - 名手から学ぶ6つのテクニック

[pku]

也許WC不是只有靠技術就能贏

One also need a very strong body to rbe able to resist the force generated by the speed , especially the Downhill and super G

[Vicente]

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YouTube - 名手から学ぶ6つのテクニック

Thank you for sharing. I like 1:19 to 1:25 very much.

[pku]

Thank you for sharing. I like 1:19 to 1:25 very much.

Miyashita CSIA L2 ( Phase 1 )

2 times Japan technical champion ( in early 2000 )