Beg's Improvement

[pku]

How come beg's sking improves so dramatically?

Is it beause he got the 心法 form Norman 大師

Or other reason?

Anybody can give out his idea?

[beg]

Do I have improve?.

[norman]

How come beg's sking improves so dramatically?

Is it beause he got the 心法 form Norman 大師

Or other reason?

Anybody can give out his idea?

您能說說看beg兄的進步是在哪裏，有什麼差別嗎？

不然您看到的進步跟我看到的進步的差別很可能是不一樣的，對我來講，我只跟他私下講一個訣竅而已，剩下的就要靠他自己了，而對這個訣竅只是增加一個很細微的動作，其他的只要熟練跟調整而已，所以談不上進步了什麼，因為該會的重點他早已抓住了，只是需要一個運用貫通的訣竅方法而已。

但我覺得我說的那訣竅，對您適不適用，我就不知道了，因為這是信不信及能不能理解我說的重點的問題而已。

不然或許他真的上了不少私人的課，但如有上課總會看到有人教他吧？這就得問您有沒有看到囉，畢竟您們常在同一個雪場上滑，機率再低也會看到的吧？不然也應該有個耳傳之類的話，畢竟教個進步超快的人，總是會有成就感的。

不過如太極兄說的，beg兄的進步跟我無關也是有可能的，因為我去年的影片還滑得挺差的，差的人如何教好的人呢？除非我也能來一段影片證明一下囉。

我覺得您們常滑雪，可能會容易碰到，所以他進步的如何及多快，您不講，他不說，我們也不知吧？這問題倒是考倒大家了。

[norman]

Beg兄現階段影片的差別。

最明顯的差別就是姿勢練漂亮，動作越來越流暢了，這是我看到的部份，期待下一段更加進步囉。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=21
YouTube - SANY0022.MP4


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1
YouTube - 2010 Nov first run in Whistler


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=27
YouTube - family bump


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=3
YouTube - steering.mov

[taichiskiing]

Beg兄現階段影片的差別。

最明顯的差別就是姿勢練漂亮，動作越來越流暢了，這是我看到的部份，期待下一段更加進步囉。 ]

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=21
YouTube - SANY0022.MP4


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1
YouTube - 2010 Nov first run in Whistler


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=27
YouTube - family bump


http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=3
YouTube - steering.mov


這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！

YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing


:)
IS

[norman]

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=21
YouTube - SANY0022.MP4

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1
YouTube - 2010 Nov first run in Whistler

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=27
YouTube - family bump

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=3
YouTube - steering.mov

這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！

YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing

:)
IS

大家在討論beg兄這半年來的滑雪技術進步速度，這整篇討論串哪裏有寫說beg兄的動作很漂亮？很厲害？您硬要拿影片來比較您較行？原來太極兄是專門在欺負小輩用的，那乾脆去拿初學者的相比來突顯您更厲害，這樣不是比較明顯嗎？讓人撞鐘撞到頭殼壞了嗎？

如果愛比較，我也幫您選一段影片來跟您比好了。

:20070218193705:
YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing



太極兄自己已言明：「這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！」

YouTube - Austrian Mogul Skiing

[pku]

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=21
YouTube - SANY0022.MP4

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1
YouTube - 2010 Nov first run in Whistler

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=27
YouTube - family bump

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=3
YouTube - steering.mov

這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！

YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing

:)
IS

I don't think the guy in your video ski better than Beg. Beg's skiing is more technical. The guy in your video is just more relax. The terrain in your video is also not difficult. Just more of groomed runs.

If you want to comapre, the better way is to come to ski together and see who kick who's ass.

[pku]

大家在討論beg兄這半年來的滑雪技術進步速度，這整篇討論串哪裏有寫說beg兄的動作很漂亮？很厲害？您硬要拿影片來比較您較行？原來太極兄是專門在欺負小輩用的，那乾脆去拿初學者的相比來突顯您更厲害，這樣不是比較明顯嗎？讓人撞鐘撞到頭殼壞了嗎？

如果愛比較，我也幫您選一段影片來跟您比好了。

:20070218193705:
YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing


太極兄自己已言明：「這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！」

YouTube - Austrian Mogul Skiing

The first guy ( Bernd Greber ) in your video is 高手中的高手 although he died already and all the guys are the same levels.

That's no point of comparing a professional to an amature. Can you ski like that (50% )? if you ski the run he skied and turn as short as him, you can't do more than 3 turns. The guy in taichiski's video at least can do more turns than you.

Don't forget you can only ski at home.

[taichiskiing]

大家在討論beg兄這半年來的滑雪技術進步速度，這整篇討論串哪裏有寫說beg兄的動作很漂亮？很厲害？您硬要拿影片來比較您較行？原來太極兄是專門在欺負小輩用的，那乾脆去拿初學者的相比來突顯您更厲害，這樣不是比較明顯嗎？讓人撞鐘撞到頭殼壞了嗎？

所以你是自認“小輩”，卻是滑的比別人高手滑的“漂亮”、“厲害”？還你們NSS只敢跟初學者比？還是小人心理變態？他的技術，人要是不要臉的話，頭撞壞了也學不來的。

如果愛比較，我也幫您選一段影片來跟您比好了。

:20070218193705:
YouTube - All-mountain Skiing:

太極兄自己已言明：「這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！」

YouTube - Austrian Mogul Skiing


典型的NSS偷人家的主意/東西來標榜自己，問題是你可以做嗎？就不要說你連不一樣的地形不一樣的技術都不知道？以 "free skiing" 來說，他們滑的太辛苦了‧要比，等他們能跟上我們再說吧！ "Cement Skiing"，

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Sierra Cement skiing, Sky chair, Heavenly


:)
IS

[pku]

所以你是自認“小輩”，卻是滑的比別人高手滑的“漂亮”、“厲害”？還你們NSS只敢跟初學者比？還是小人心理變態？他的技術，人要是不要臉的話，頭撞壞了也學不來的。



:20070218193705:
YouTube - All-mountain Skiing:



YouTube - Austrian Mogul Skiing

典型的NSS偷人家的主意/東西來標榜自己，問題是你可以做嗎？就不要說你連不一樣的地形不一樣的技術都不知道？以 "free skiing" 來說，他們滑的太辛苦了‧要比，等他們能跟上我們再說吧！ "Cement Skiing"，

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: Sierra Cement skiing, Sky chair, Heavenly

:)
IS

I said Norman 不要臉 last season already but at that time you and him are friends and you don't agree with me.

We always got snow condition like those in your video and the runs are not difficult so I don't think Beg can't catch up with you.

Beg's skiing is quite good. Compare with Norman, Beg is the teacher and Norman is the student on Snow. Of course Norman ski much better at home and use top ski professional to compare with us.

[taichiskiing]

I don't think the guy in your video ski better than Beg. Beg's skiing is more technical. The guy in your video is just more relax. The terrain in your video is also not difficult. Just more of groomed runs.

If you want to comapre, the better way is to come to ski together and see who kick who's ass.

You're kidding, right? You don't see his carving switch and White Pass turns, as well as spinning at cruising speed? And when you get in and out of groomed runs, that's "Off-piste."

YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing


“Dualing with a worthy opponent may bring one honor, but not with a shameless opponent." There's no winning possible with a shameless.

:)
IS

[taichiskiing]

I said Norman 不要臉 last season already but at that time you and him are friends and you don't agree with me.

Well, he is “每況愈下”, and at that time I was trying to protect him from other bullies. Just interesting to see how things are turned out, he was and is a mutated bully himself.

We always got snow condition like those in your video and the runs are not difficult so I don't think Beg can't catch up with you.

Actually, when one says that Grand Canyon is just another canyon, we know he or she has never seen real Grand Canyon. Your Whistler is famous for its cloudy days and wet snow, nevertheless, I think you're too far north to have real "cement snow." But nevertheless, let's see how can beg handle it.

My friend was an ex PSIA clinician (if you don't what that is, ask snowrider); that's to say, he was a top professional. Though you may think that you have seen the video thus seen his skiing, actually, you have really seen nothing yet, not until you see it when the wind brushes your face that hurts.

Beg's skiing is quite good. Compare with Norman, Beg is the teacher and Norman is the student on Snow. Of course Norman ski much better at home and use top ski professional to compare with us.

Interesting how they NSS 倫次不分，“心不正，技術也歪”，don't see how much they can develop, guess it is better for them just to talk about it on the 'net, (skiing is an adventure sport,) so they don't get hurt.

Gone skiing, :)
IS

[pku]

You're kidding, right? You don't see his carving switch and White Pass turns, as well as spinning at cruising speed? And when you get in and out of groomed runs, that's "Off-piste."

YouTube - All-mountain Skiing: free skiing

“Dualing with a worthy opponent may bring one honor, but not with a shameless opponent." There's no winning possible with a shameless.

:)
IS

Oh G! " get in and out of groomed runs, that's "Off-piste." Are you kidding? There is not even bumpy on what you said off piste. That's too easy to ski. The terrain on Whistler is not like that. Once you got on off groomed, you need to ski all the way down before you can hit the groomed again.

The way you said carve on one foot is just more like a inside ski turns. My kids can do one foot skiing 10 years ago. That's not hard at all.

I know you ski a lot but your skiing is only quite relax but not fast and no performance ( you said performance skiing and too much turning is too tiring ) To a certain extend is true but I think it's also the fun part of the sport ( speed ) and be able to turn at will. I don't think many people loke the way you skis but for sure you can ski, not like Norman can only talk.

I appreciate people can ski no matter how they ski.

[norman]

少點垃圾話總是好的，不如我們來欣賞一小節什麼叫做「這種技術也敢亮相？它們好在那裡？真是“山中無老虎，猴子稱霸王”！也看看別人高手是怎麼滑的吧！」

鬆雪也能雙手放開的玩的，我相信beg兄很快就能練到這樣的程度了。

鬆雪自由滑

[beg]

Well, he is “每況愈下”, and at that time I was trying to protect him from other bullies. Just interesting to see how things are turned out, he was and is a mutated bully himself.



Actually, when one says that Grand Canyon is just another canyon, we know he or she has never seen real Grand Canyon. Your Whistler is famous for its cloudy days and wet snow, nevertheless, I think you're too far north to have real "cement snow." But nevertheless, let's see how can beg handle it.

My friend was an ex PSIA clinician (if you don't what that is, ask snowrider); that's to say, he was a top professional. Though you may think that you have seen the video thus seen his skiing, actually, you have really seen nothing yet, not until you see it when the wind brushes your face that hurts.



Interesting how my 太極猴猴倫次不分，“心不正，技術也歪”，don't see how much I can develop, guess it is better for me just to talk about it on the 'net, (skiing is an adventure sport,) so I don't get hurt.

Gone skiing, :)
IS

太極猴猴拿ー个看不到的高手朋友替自己掙面子、拿威風、真搞笑。像ー个妓女向人炫耀自己的嫖客有很多財富。
這兒有 PSIA, CSIA 的專業教練。冒充教練的太極猴猴還是虚心受教吧.
PKU 是真正的教練、太監大師可是冒充的。

[taichiskiing]

Oh G! " get in and out of groomed runs, that's "Off-piste." Are you kidding? There is not even bumpy on what you said off piste. That's too easy to ski. The terrain on Whistler is not like that. Once you got on off groomed, you need to ski all the way down before you can hit the groomed again.

I was talking about the "techniques," not the terrain; yes, in and out groomed runs means you have to be able ski the different/uneven surfaces, (see where I whined when he jumped off the groom without missing a beat @0:35,) which is what makes "off-piste" skiing.

The way you said carve on one foot is just more like a inside ski turns. My kids can do one foot skiing 10 years ago. That's not hard at all.

You need to come up with better arguments to trivialize his good performance (those were demos for training the ski instructors!), "You kids can do one foot skiing 10 years ago" won't do, only makes you losing your credibility. Such an argument actually says three things: 1) your kids are genius, which I doubt it (if they can do that 10 years ago, they should be on the Olympic or WC podiums somewhere by now); 2) you don't ski better than what you kids can do ten years ago (if you cannot do one foot skiing); 3) you have a poor video analysis skill (spinning at cruising speed is not a simple maneuver, even you see him does it easily). And the main question remains, can you do it? As what makes the "White Pass" turns, I think Snowrider may have better ideas, he was drilling on it.

I know you ski a lot but your skiing is only quite relax but not fast and no performance ( you said performance skiing and too much turning is too tiring ) To a certain extend is true but I think it's also the fun part of the sport ( speed ) and be able to turn at will.

Skiing every day is no longer just "skiing" anymore but a "discipline"/練功夫, and as well "everyday living," as you still need to take care the details of everyday living, injures, fatigue, and etc., I ski is to enjoy myself, not to exhaust myself.

Well, "speed" and "turn at will" don't really complement to each other—when you go fast, you cannot turn easily, and when you slow down to turn, you've lost the speed, and that's the characteristic of "Turn-Skiing." How do you do "go fast and turn at will" at the same time?

I don't think many people loke the way you skis but for sure you can ski, not like Norman can only talk.

I appreciate people can ski no matter how they ski.

The answer is "Line-Skiing," and my friend skis better than me.

:)
IS

[skier888]

I was talking about the "techniques," not the terrain; yes, in and out groomed runs means you have to be able ski the different/uneven surfaces, (see where I whined when he jumped off the groom without missing a beat @0:35,) which is what makes "off-piste" skiing.

I would be surprised if he missed it. Even doing a 180 or 360 is not that difficult.

[skier888]

Well, "speed" and "turn at will" don't really complement to each other—when you go fast, you cannot turn easily, and when you slow down to turn, you've lost the speed, and that's the characteristic of "Turn-Skiing." How do you do "go fast and turn at will" at the same time?



The answer is "Line-Skiing," and my friend skis better than me.

:)
IS

This is true and it is also true in your skiing. When you skiing steep in your video, you have to make quick hairpin shape turns and proceed to do a traverse. You change style to reflect the condition you are in.

[pku]

[quote=taichiskiing]I was talking about the "techniques," not the terrain; yes, in and out groomed runs means you have to be able ski the different/uneven surfaces, (see where I whined when he jumped off the groom without missing a beat @0:35,) which is what makes "off-piste" skiing.
I don't think it's hard especially it seems to me he know the mountain so much.


You need to come up with better arguments to trivialize his good performance (those were demos for training the ski instructors!), "You kids can do one foot skiing 10 years ago" won't do, only makes you losing your credibility. Such an argument actually says three things: 1) your kids are genius, which I doubt it (if they can do that 10 years ago, they should be on the Olympic or WC podiums somewhere by now); 2) you don't ski better than what you kids can do ten years ago (if you cannot do one foot skiing); 3) you have a poor video analysis skill (spinning at cruising speed is not a simple maneuver, even you see him does it easily). And the main question remains, can you do it? As what makes the "White Pass" turns, I think Snowrider may have better ideas, he was drilling on it.

Skiing with one foot is the basic Excise for race training at the entry level. May be for you is hard. My kids attend those training for few years. That means your knowledge about Alpine ski technique is very limited. I can still do one foot skiing by my right ( stronger side ) of course depends where ( on green groomed or groomed blue runs on good snow condition. )
As I said, spinning that kind of thing is not consider alpine skiing technique ( may be new school ) and I don't have much knowledge about it so I don't consider good or bad.

Skiing every day is no longer just "skiing" anymore but a "discipline"/練功夫, and as well "everyday living," as you still need to take care the details of everyday living, injures, fatigue, and etc., I ski is to enjoy myself, not to exhaust myself.That's why your skiing is not good from my eyes, it's so casual[/B]

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[/B]Well, "speed" and "turn at will" don't really complement to each other—when you go fast, you cannot turn easily, and when you slow down to turn, you've lost the speed, and that's the characteristic of "Turn-Skiing." How do you do "go fast and turn at will" at the same time?
Fast is always a comparison and I think the video show fast and turn at will

YouTube - Classic Short Radius Turns


YouTube - carving tecnica


Of course I can't do like him but that is my goal, not the way you ski

The answer is "Line-Skiing," and my friend skis better than me

Conclusion: your skiing is not my cup of tea[/B]

[taichiskiing]

太極猴猴拿ー个看不到的高手朋友替自己掙面子、拿威風、真搞笑。像ー个妓女向人炫耀自己的嫖客有很多財富。

就是妓女也比你這兒皇帝有出息/骨氣。

這兒有 PSIA, CSIA 的專業教練。冒充教練的太極猴猴還是虚心受教吧.
PKU 是真正的教練、太監大師可是冒充的。

“有點像「兒皇帝」假借外力來鞏固自己的地位；對，無恥的人是會做這種事‧你認為 PSIA、CSIA、XSIA 等就代表滑雪的的權威？那可是你自己小知識‧你也不需要躲在PKU後面挑簿離間（很像太監的樣子），他不像你們NSS一樣小人‧下面這個太極滑雪的挑戰在網路上還沒有人敢應，你又在冒充什麼？”

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: free skiing, Kirkwood