「In all of those turns see how skier keeps sinking onto the skis, or getting shorter through the turn? That was how you could keep adding pressure to the ski through the turn. Thank you for posting those, they really are 3 good examples of skiing from a slightly different view.」
那你為什麽不貼這段呢
Until about 1970 those were the dominant parallel turns from most ski schools. They are all up un-weighted turns. If you initiate your turn by extending the body, standing up, it is up un-weighted. They are still good tools to have in your skiing skill set, and were very effective with straight skis; they are just not the most effective turns with modern skis. They can work in the bumps, but again are not the most efficient with the today's gear.
人家是對你初級著客氣，你還當真 你不是說你的滑法只有L4 才看得懂嗎，那個人連L1也沒有
#143 回覆: Norman2012年第一次完功的不熟練滑雪動作
發表於 : 週日 4月 01, 2012 10:28 am
由 pku
skier888 寫:那你為什麽不貼這段呢
Until about 1970 those were the dominant parallel turns from most ski schools. They are all up un-weighted turns. If you initiate your turn by extending the body, standing up, it is up un-weighted. They are still good tools to have in your skiing skill set, and were very effective with straight skis; they are just not the most effective turns with modern skis. They can work in the bumps, but again are not the most efficient with the today's gear.
人家是對你初級著客氣，你還當真 你不是說你的滑法只有L4 才看得懂嗎，那個人連L1也沒有
基本上一睇便知是老外的客氣嘢，弱慢又當人讚佢
#144 回覆: Norman2012年第一次完功的不熟練滑雪動作
發表於 : 週日 4月 01, 2012 10:09 pm
由 norman
依wedeln提供的連結，我貼過來其中一個：
「skinerd:
I'm not a big fan of the the terms 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' simply because your center of mass will rise in the transition in 97% of turns... regardless of whether you flex or extend at that moment in time. By some definitions the center of mass rising is 'up-unweighting'. I prefer to think of it as either extension or flexion (retraction).
In slower turns, especially in thick or un-tracked snow, extension during transition may be a better option to release the skis from the snow. In most higher speed/performance situations where more pressure is developed, retraction (flexing) is a quicker way to enter the new turn and makes it easier to maintain balance. That being said quicker isn't always better and sometimes extending off the outside ski will create a longer 'float phase' and create more deflection of the mass across the hill.」
skier888，你要全翻一下嗎？
我之所以沒引這個，大意上，他說不太介意是 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' 這名詞，大多定義上只要重心較多上升，就是up-unweighting，他比較喜歡用 extension or flexion， extension特別是在厚鬆雪及 un-tracked(看不懂)，是可以延長時間轉換方向並簡單及容易去執行轉彎， flexion可以讓速度再更快些...等。
I'm not a big fan of the the terms 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' simply because your center of mass will rise in the transition in 97% of turns... regardless of whether you flex or extend at that moment in time. By some definitions the center of mass rising is 'up-unweighting'. I prefer to think of it as either extension or flexion (retraction).
In slower turns, especially in thick or un-tracked snow, extension during transition may be a better option to release the skis from the snow. In most higher speed/performance situations where more pressure is developed, retraction (flexing) is a quicker way to enter the new turn and makes it easier to maintain balance. That being said quicker isn't always better and sometimes extending off the outside ski will create a longer 'float phase' and create more deflection of the mass across the hill.」
skier888，你要全翻一下嗎？
我之所以沒引這個，大意上，他說不太介意是 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' 這名詞，大多定義上只要重心較多上升，就是up-unweighting，他比較喜歡用 extension or flexion， extension特別是在厚鬆雪及 un-tracked(看不懂)，是可以延長時間轉換方向並簡單及容易去執行轉彎， flexion可以讓速度再更快些...等。
I'm not a big fan of the the terms 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' simply because your center of mass will rise in the transition in 97% of turns... regardless of whether you flex or extend at that moment in time. By some definitions the center of mass rising is 'up-unweighting'. I prefer to think of it as either extension or flexion (retraction).
In slower turns, especially in thick or un-tracked snow, extension during transition may be a better option to release the skis from the snow. In most higher speed/performance situations where more pressure is developed, retraction (flexing) is a quicker way to enter the new turn and makes it easier to maintain balance. That being said quicker isn't always better and sometimes extending off the outside ski will create a longer 'float phase' and create more deflection of the mass across the hill.」
skier888，你要全翻一下嗎？
我之所以沒引這個，大意上，他說不太介意是 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' 這名詞，大多定義上只要重心較多上升，就是up-unweighting，他比較喜歡用 extension or flexion， extension特別是在厚鬆雪及 un-tracked(看不懂)，是可以延長時間轉換方向並簡單及容易去執行轉彎， flexion可以讓速度再更快些...等。
I'm not a big fan of the the terms 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' simply because your center of mass will rise in the transition in 97% of turns... regardless of whether you flex or extend at that moment in time. By some definitions the center of mass rising is 'up-unweighting'. I prefer to think of it as either extension or flexion (retraction).
In slower turns, especially in thick or un-tracked snow, extension during transition may be a better option to release the skis from the snow. In most higher speed/performance situations where more pressure is developed, retraction (flexing) is a quicker way to enter the new turn and makes it easier to maintain balance. That being said quicker isn't always better and sometimes extending off the outside ski will create a longer 'float phase' and create more deflection of the mass across the hill.」
skier888，你要全翻一下嗎？
我之所以沒引這個，大意上，他說不太介意是 'up-unweighting' or 'down-unweighting' 這名詞，大多定義上只要重心較多上升，就是up-unweighting，他比較喜歡用 extension or flexion， extension特別是在厚鬆雪及 un-tracked(看不懂)，是可以延長時間轉換方向並簡單及容易去執行轉彎， flexion可以讓速度再更快些...等。
你不是說你的滑法只有L4 才看得懂嗎，那個人連L1也沒有 
