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#21 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週四 1月 06, 2011 10:24 am
pku
norman 寫:不是下得順就不僵硬,只是基礎還不錯,所以轉彎算順而已,我剪下面兩張來比對一下,或許會了解我說的僵硬問題(已撞上饅頭了,全身幾乎沒有彈性,還側傾直直的)。

至於我說beg兄應該能看懂我的意思,是因為最後我跟他講的那個訣竅,那動作已包含這些了,如果看不懂,那他就做不出最近拍的動作了。

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if you compare anybody with Richard Bergard ( The photo of the guy you cut from the Technical Bump Skiing video ) then 99.999999% of the skier on the mountain is 僵硬.

Beg's video is on the groom run, his bump skiing for sure not better than the little girl.

Richard Berger's skiing is almost like god, no amature skier can ski to his level.

What I post here is " Amature bump skiing, not professional bump skiing.

#22 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週四 1月 06, 2011 11:11 am
norman
pku 寫:if you compare anybody with Richard Bergard ( The photo of the guy you cut from the Technical Bump Skiing video ) then 99.999999% of the skier on the mountain is 僵硬.

Beg's video is on the groom run, his bump skiing for sure not better than the little girl.

Richard Berger's skiing is almost like god, no amature skier can ski to his level.

What I post here is " Amature bump skiing, not professional bump skiing.
我沒有說要這麼厲害,而是說該有的動作應該要有的,如果有的話,很快會有機會變得這麼厲害。

#23 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週四 1月 06, 2011 1:28 pm
pku
norman 寫:我沒有說要這麼厲害,而是說該有的動作應該要有的,如果有的話,很快會有機會變得這麼厲害。
i never saw any CSIA level 4 can ski close to his skiing.

You can only be like him in your dream but you'll be awake soon.

#24 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週四 1月 06, 2011 2:47 pm
skier888
Why do you care what norm think? He can't catch up with the girl if you give him six years. He does not ski. He does not own and doesn't understand equipment. He does not understand alignment. The only thing he understand is pose. That is why he can't explain things. All he can do is show you a picture. Why? Because he only understand "look".

#25 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週四 1月 06, 2011 2:55 pm
pku
skier888 寫:Why do you care what norm think? He can't catch up with the girl if you give him six years. He does not ski. He does not own and doesn't understand equipment. He does not understand alignment. The only thing he understand is pose. That is why he can't explain things. All he can do is show you a picture. Why? Because he only understand "look".
You are 100% right but i just like to argue a bit although not as much as Beg :face (334):

#26 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週五 1月 07, 2011 12:02 pm
skier888
pku 寫:You are 100% right but i just like to argue a bit although not as much as Beg :face (334):
I don't know why you pull beg into the conversation. He has done nothing to deserve it, except being loyal to norm for unknown reason. You will not win argument against norm because he does not make sense.

#27 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週五 1月 07, 2011 9:50 pm
norman
Vicente 寫: :face (330): :face (330):

Angulation: 先knee 後hip.

:face (292): :face (292):
您確定嗎?

#28 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週五 1月 07, 2011 10:23 pm
taichiskiing
skier888 寫:I don't know why you pull beg into the conversation. He has done nothing to deserve it, except being loyal to norm for unknown reason. You will not win argument against norm because he does not make sense.
You've got that right, but we know beg's reason, a severe case of mutated egotism, and he's now 老羞成怒, 騎虎難下, 抬不起也放不下, guess we'll see his shameless behaviors for awhile. As he enjoys masturbating in the public, not much we can do about it, but put the spotlight on him, see how shameless he could be.

:)
IS

#29 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週五 1月 07, 2011 11:54 pm
Vicente
norman 寫:您確定嗎?
NSS 的話, 你說了算, 我就不知了.
你知道用 knee angulation or hip angulation 的時機和差別嗎?

:face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

#30 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 12:22 am
pku
skier888 寫:Why do you care what norm think? He can't catch up with the girl if you give him six years. He does not ski. He does not own and doesn't understand equipment. He does not understand alignment. The only thing he understand is pose. That is why he can't explain things. All he can do is show you a picture. Why? Because he only understand "look".
Norman understand look is a good thing, as he said, if the skiing is really high end, the look should be similar. Therefore he try to duplicate the look. But the thing is, is not a look of a split second, it should be a look of a continuous motion. If you see his skiing of his big turn, in order to obtain the look he wants in the split second and he can give up all the smoothness of the turns and you can see he's everywhere. If you see his short turn, then it's 100% failure.

Like the little girl, she may not have a split look perfect but the overall skiing is smooth.

I talk about Beg is because everything skiing video from Beg got good comment by norman.

#31 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 12:27 am
norman
Vicente 寫:NSS 的話, 你說了算, 我就不知了.
你知道用 knee angulation or hip angulation 的時機和差別嗎?

:face (292): :face (292): :face (292):
坦白講,先膝再股,還是先股再膝,又或是股膝同時做,個人喜好,您喜歡先膝再股,那就練先膝再股囉,我沒意見,我只是好奇您為何會定義angulation是先膝再股,不就是一個折角的名詞嗎?

這樣好了,不如往前翻到上一頁我剪的那兩張高手的照片,在這個位置,他/她的膝有折,還是股有折呢?這答案您就放在心裏就好,因為我真的不想知道,也不想辯論哪個先折,因為取一張照片,就只是一張照片而已,拿來論這些實在沒多大的意義,skier888兄不正就是這個意思嗎?

#32 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 12:40 am
skier888
pku 寫: I talk about Beg is because everything skiing video from Beg got good comment by norman.
So it is not beg's fault. :face (334):

#33 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 12:52 am
norman
pku 寫:If you see his skiing of his big turn, in order to obtain the look he wants in the split second and he can give up all the smoothness of the turns and you can see he's everywhere.
謝謝您,您有了解到我的其中一個重點了,沒練好這個要點,我不會考慮急忙進入下個階段的,我只能說,所有的動作「起點」很重要,但起點要好,事前準備也很重要,但不夠清楚兩者之間的關係協調,很多中間過程也必然會有問題的。先顧好前後,中間的問題自然很容易就能迎刃而解了。

至於小轉,下次拍就能反轉您們的印象了,先前小轉只是當我的動作印證要用的,印證有問題,一定要從大彎修正起,這樣可以減少不必要的彎路。

#34 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 1:18 am
pku
norman 寫:謝謝您,您有了解到我的其中一個重點了,沒練好這個要點,我不會考慮急忙進入下個階段的,我只能說,所有的動作「起點」很重要,但起點要好,事前準備也很重要,但不夠清楚兩者之間的關係協調,很多中間過程也必然會有問題的。先顧好前後,中間的問題自然很容易就能迎刃而解了。

至於小轉,下次拍就能反轉您們的印象了,先前小轉只是當我的動作印證要用的,印證有問題,一定要從大彎修正起,這樣可以減少不必要的彎路。
To be able to get your 重點, take at least 60 Days of skiing at groomed run, to be able to apply it to everywhere, take years ( 30 day skiing each years )

I don't think Beg tell you how long he skis. From my eyes 5-8 years

#35 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 1:20 am
pku
skier888 寫:So it is not beg's fault. :face (334):
It should be my fault. Beg really likes arguing. See now he and Taichiskiing keep arguing.
nonstop.

#36 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 1:30 am
norman
pku 寫:To be able to get your 重點, take at least 60 Days of skiing at groomed run, to be able to apply it to everywhere, take years ( 30 day skiing each years )

I don't think Beg tell you how long he skis. From my eyes 5-8 years
需要這麼久的時間嗎?

關於beg兄練了多久,我是不清楚,不過我較好奇的是,假如練我的方法,是從什時開始及花了多少的時間,只要他願意講的話,至於以他在七月貼的那一段,假如是依我的方法練的話,我估計他至少練我的方法有2~3年的時間了(應該不可能超過3年,練2年的機率較大一些),不然應該不可能達到我說的那些重點(雖還不夠好,但也足夠練下一階的要訣了),而我覺得如果只花3~5年即可達到他現在的動作,我覺得這應該算進步速度很快了吧?因為進步最快的還是從這一年算起吧?

而我的方法本來在一開始練時,外觀看起來不什樣,進步的速度好像很慢,但只有練的人自己能體會到其中的差別,而到最後階段時,進步的速度會是非常快,通常後三年內一定會有所成。

#37 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 3:21 am
pku
taichiskiing 寫:You've got that right, but we know beg's reason, a severe case of mutated egotism, and he's now 老羞成怒, 騎虎難下, 抬不起也放不下, guess we'll see his shameless behaviors for awhile. As he enjoys masturbating in the public, not much we can do about it, but put the spotlight on him, see how shameless he could be.

:)
IS
Beg is a good skier, unlike Norman just talk.

I always respect hard working skier.

Beg just like arguing, try not to argue with him, try skiing with him.

#38 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 4:24 am
beg
pku 寫:It should be my fault. Beg really likes arguing. See now he and Taichiskiing keep arguing.
nonstop.
The only way to stop this is Taichi stop his dirty mouth or the Admin kick both of us out.(or kick me out) :face (334): :face (334): :face (334):

#39 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 8:30 am
norman
taichiskiing 寫:You've got that right, but we know beg's reason, a severe case of mutated egotism, and he's now 老羞成怒, 騎虎難下, 抬不起也放不下, guess we'll see his shameless behaviors for awhile. As he enjoys masturbating in the public, not much we can do about it, but put the spotlight on him, see how shameless he could be.

:)
IS
從另一串唸到這一串,這樣算心胸寬大嗎?已經有點像三姑六婆了... :laf (0):

不如放下心中的執著會比較好一點。 :face (46):

#40 回覆: Amature bumps skiing

發表於 : 週六 1月 08, 2011 9:27 am
norman
taichiskiing 寫: 老羞成怒

:)
IS
是「惱羞成怒」,老而羞會成怒,那每個年紀大的人豈不是都是這個樣子... :laf (0):

但我又找到這解釋,所以引下文參考,兩句都是對的。

http://dict.idioms.moe.edu.tw/mandarin/ ... d01658.htm