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#41 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 1:02 am
ams
skier666 寫:I don't have an answer for this. I don't extend for anther reason. I like to think about skiing as flowing like water as Taichiskiing is talking about. Things like "let the pressure come to you" start making sense.
Thanks for sharing your view. :face (334):

#42 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 4:45 am
taichiskiing
skier666 寫:I don't have an answer for this. I don't extend for anther reason. I like to think about skiing as flowing like water as Taichiskiing is talking about. Things like "let the pressure come to you" start making sense.
Actually, when I was lured to Epicski five years ago, some people were thinking I was a PMTSer, haha, Taichi PMTS?

YouTube- Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: S turn slow mo


:)
IS

#43 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 9:34 am
skier666
PSBoy 寫:Could you give me some examples to explain how to manage the rest of the body when tipping the skis?

BTW, it is difficult for me to continue tipping during the turn.
I actually can you give you an example but not about tipping.

In this video
ams 寫:不用客氣, 我只是將我所知的跟板友們分享而已. 另外值得一提的 pmts 的 tipping 基本動作很簡單, 只是在開彎時用腳邊(不是腿, 是腳)立角, 而在收彎時反過來做便可, 要練這 tipping 只要練好 two footed release 便自然會有成就. 但這動作不好練, 得花幾百次的重複練習, 難度之高就連 Harald 自己的示範也出現 wedge. :face (50): :face (334):

YouTube- Ski Practice 5: Build two footed releases, "slowly"!
You see his body is not square and is slighly counter. He ends with the same position on the opposite side. Subtleties like these are what I am talking about. This is true for all systems but PMS is most strict.

#44 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 11:41 am
PSBoy
skier666 寫:...You see his body is not square and is slighly counter. He ends with the same position on the opposite side. Subtleties like these are what I am talking about...
Thanks, skier666.

BTW, I have watched a video (in the Jay Peterson's website) that is recorded Harald Harb's explanation of counter acting and balance in his class. It is good for me to understand his method :-)

#45 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 12:02 pm
skier666
taichiskiing 寫:Actually, when I was lured to Epicski five years ago, some people were thinking I was a PMTSer, haha, Taichi PMTS?

YouTube- Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: S turn slow mo

:)
IS
You obviously are very knowledgeable and ski very well. It is difficult for others to accept your idea when they think they already know everything about skiing. I don’t know everything you talk about but I share your views like flowing like water and ride the gravity. That is how l want to ski.

#46 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 12:03 pm
skier666
PSBoy 寫:Thanks, skier666.

BTW, I have watched a video (in the Jay Peterson's website) that is recorded Harald Harb's explanation of counter acting and balance in his class. It is good for me to understand his method :-)
you are very good. maybe we will learn something from you soon

#47 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週日 7月 25, 2010 1:18 pm
PSBoy
skier666 寫:you are very good. maybe we will learn something from you soon
Thanks for your kind words. I'm sure I always learn from you all :-)
skier666 寫:...like flowing like water and ride the gravity. That is how l want to ski...
I want to ski at that level too (of course, it's just my dream)!

#48 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週一 7月 26, 2010 12:40 am
taichiskiing
skier666 寫:You obviously are very knowledgeable and ski very well. It is difficult for others to accept your idea when they think they already know everything about skiing. I don’t know everything you talk about but I share your views like flowing like water and ride the gravity. That is how l want to ski.
Thanks for all the kind words; I have tendency to push the evelop to see what's outside the box. It is not much "me" doing it but the "Way" of Taichi. I had a semi-pro dancer as Taichi student once, and she said as a dancer she thought she knew "all" the body movements until she started to learn my Shen style Taichi—the movements of "non-moving." ("Non-moving" movements are breath-driven,用氣不用力,that is, moving the body mass without using much of the joints movements.) so I do have some experience of what you are talking about. And in their Western commercial cultures, they don't believe such a thing as 世外高人,and I was not part of their leagues, that was why so many bashing before.

Anyhow, if you come to Heavenly, we can make a few runs together, that should be fun.

:)
IS

#49 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 2:02 pm
skier666
PSBoy 寫:Thanks for your kind words. I'm sure I always learn from you all :-)



I want to ski at that level too (of course, it's just my dream)!
You can make it a reality. You can ski a green run with this mind set.

#50 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 2:12 pm
PSBoy
skier666 寫:You can make it a reality. You can ski a green run with this mind set.
I will give it a try this Christmas at Hokkaido, Japan :-)

#51 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 2:25 pm
skier666
I visualize the line I am going to ski and how I want to ski it first. so at least you can 轉彎沒有頓點. There is no need on the green run but you get the idea.

#52 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 2:33 pm
PSBoy
skier666 寫:I visualize the line I am going to ski and how I want to ski it first. so at least you can 轉彎沒有頓點. There is no need on the green run but you get the idea.
Honestly, it is quite difficult for me to do this ,轉彎沒有頓點, on the black run.

#53 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 2:57 pm
skier666
PSBoy 寫:Honestly, it is quite difficult for me to do this ,轉彎沒有頓點, on the black run.
I am only borrowing the words. It is not entirely about what advanced technique you have or perfect turn. You can still apply this mind set in blue run or if you have to skid, try skid 沒有頓點, keep moving

#54 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 3:25 pm
PSBoy
skier666 寫:I am only borrowing the words. It is not entirely about what advanced technique you have or perfect turn. You can still apply this mind set in blue run or if you have to skid, try skid 沒有頓點, keep moving
Understood. Will give it a try :-)

#55 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 9:26 pm
norman
skier666 寫:I am only borrowing the words. It is not entirely about what advanced technique you have or perfect turn. You can still apply this mind set in blue run or if you have to skid, try skid 沒有頓點, keep moving
這樣子是練不出所謂「沒有頓點」的重心轉換的。:20070217213814:

沒有頓點不是自己覺得轉彎沒有頓點就行了,只要有剎車或打滑的現象,就算您覺得轉得多順,一樣不是達成真正沒有頓點的技巧的。

要沒有頓點,得要有兩個基本條件。

1. 在重心轉換時,重心要維持不變,就像一顆球順著S水管往下一樣。
2. 雙腳不能出現A字腳。

至於要練,得先滿足一些基本條件,如我說的那5點後才能開始練這個方式,而像太極兄的方法我就不知道了,可問他如何練。

#56 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週三 7月 28, 2010 10:52 pm
skier666
norman 寫:這樣子是練不出所謂「沒有頓點」的重心轉換的。:20070217213814:

沒有頓點不是自己覺得轉彎沒有頓點就行了,只要有剎車或打滑的現象,就算您覺得轉得多順,一樣不是達成真正沒有頓點的技巧的。

要沒有頓點,得要有兩個基本條件。

1. 在重心轉換時,重心要維持不變,就像一顆球順著S水管往下一樣。
2. 雙腳不能出現A字腳。

至於要練,得先滿足一些基本條件,如我說的那5點後才能開始練這個方式,而像太極兄的方法我就不知道了,可問他如何練。
:face (336): 你是幾級 :face (8): 我們是幾級 :face (4): 要我麽達到你的標準 :face (336): 何況我我們這裡的雪場太省 :face (337): 很多地方都不壓雪 家上滿山到處是石頭 :face (340): 那有像您那麽幸福可以在如高速公路般寬又平坦的雪場滑呢 :face (48): :face (4):

所以囖 我們達不到您的形 只好用幻想的 :face (48):

#57 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週四 7月 29, 2010 12:30 am
PSBoy
skier666 寫:所以囖 我們達不到您的形 只好用幻想的 :face (48):
Don't cry because I'm crying too :face (48):

#58 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週四 7月 29, 2010 12:41 am
norman
skier666 寫::face (336): 你是幾級 :face (8): 我們是幾級 :face (4): 要我麽達到你的標準 :face (336): 何況我我們這裡的雪場太省 :face (337): 很多地方都不壓雪 家上滿山到處是石頭 :face (340): 那有像您那麽幸福可以在如高速公路般寬又平坦的雪場滑呢 :face (48): :face (4):

所以囖 我們達不到您的形 只好用幻想的 :face (48):
那些動作就算在鬆雪或亂雪也一樣能練。:20070217213814:

#59 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週四 7月 29, 2010 9:45 am
skier666
norman 寫:那些動作就算在鬆雪或亂雪也一樣能練。:20070217213814:
這點您就得承認一下,您講的級數跟我的級數完全無關,對吧?所以您並不清楚我為何要求那些重點,當然,您也可以用級數高來表示您的眼光,但是終究您還是不必要懂我在講什麼級數,對吧?因為這些級數在您的看法,它只是什麼都不是而已,也跟您的肉麻心功法無關,沒錯吧?但那些重點真的跟您的肉麻心功法無關,但確實是關係到我的低級練法很有關係,所以何必強求什麼都要看跟你一樣呢?

#60 回覆: 這可能是 pmts 的 tipping 的表徵

發表於 : 週四 7月 29, 2010 12:29 pm
PSBoy
skier666 寫:這點您就得承認一下,您講的級數跟我的級數完全無關,對吧?所以您並不清楚我為何要求那些重點,當然,您也可以用級數高來表示您的眼光,但是終究您還是不必要懂我在講什麼級數,對吧?因為這些級數在您的看法,它只是什麼都不是而已,也跟您的肉麻心功法無關,沒錯吧?但那些重點真的跟您的肉麻心功法無關,但確實是關係到我的低級練法很有關係,所以何必強求什麼都要看跟你一樣呢?
Skier666, we may discuss our original topic.

Could you tell me how to visualize the line when I'm skiing? Thanks!