Norman大師眼力有多好

管他是好咖還是怪咖,只要是咖就能發言,有任何技術問題,在此討論就對啦。

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文章 skier888 » 週三 1月 19, 2011 9:39 pm

norman 寫:您看不出來嗎?他們有您沒有的動作,就是連那女生也沒有我說的動作。

所以在三年前,beg2的滑法跟您的滑法是一樣的,但現在今年的滑法跟您是有差別的,雖然還沒有比您強,但他的技術已高於您了。

至於beg2那段1010年,這滑法已開始有點跟您的動作不一樣了,他也是有您沒有的動作,只是那段steering的動作又更加明顯。

您的動作在這三年幾乎沒有改變,對一個您本來就沒有的動作,您要如何教人呢

我並非要吹虛我的功勞,也無意改變他人的功勞,我只是說我在意的點及動作,那些無論是哪一派所學,只要學了我說的動作,一定會有改變的,而一但改變後,自然就不會再改變回去了,因為身體會記憶更好的動作。

除非您能來一段跟beg2的steering那段一模一樣的動作,只要您也有相同的動作,我一定不會說沒有的。 :face (330):
您這不是打自己的嘴巴 :face (46): 這充分表現出你強雌奪理的個性 :face (331): 看別人的學生 :face (330): 你就要搶過來當作自己的 :face (340): 不要說下一次了 :face (340): 您在滑個幾年也是跟不上beg的 :face (340):

大師,醒醒吧 :face (44): :face (44): :face (44):



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#42 回覆: Norman大師眼力有多好

文章 norman » 週三 1月 19, 2011 9:49 pm

好吧,我去看一下心理醫生好了。 :face (334):
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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 1月 19, 2011 10:41 pm

beg 寫:taichi want to start your "sick people sick game again"? :face (46): :face (46): :face (46):
No, change that to "shameless people shameless game," and you will be continued exposed if you don't change.
You sucked in your own sick game alraedy. :face (333): :face (333): :face (333):
You mean the 自賤、自殘、不要臉的“婆婦罵街”等無恥的行為? Of course, no one does better than you.
You are no different than Norman. You can't see it's different person althought they ski different and one is much fatter than the other because you spent your effort on dirty mouth.
No, I didn't even read them that closely. For level 6, beg 2 is ok, but as "ski instructor"? Those are whimpy skiing. You're not just lacked of morals, ethics, but video analysis skills for an instructor, and you bitch me about certificate? You've distained your CSIA ski instructor title.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週三 1月 19, 2011 10:43 pm

beg 寫:大師和自封為王的大師ー様、不明技術而談技術、只是你不滑雪他滑雪、你保持風度而他心腸歹毒。
Norman, what did I tell you? “事實上我想要是我不在這裡發言的話,他的目標就是你了,”你是被人幌了還自以為是,悲哉。

「稱譽奸詐的人,排斥自己厭惡的人,叫做“慝”」,典型的小人作風‧

事實上不是我不明技術而是你自己知識淺薄,所以你跟 Norman 也是一對。

:)
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文章 pku » 週三 1月 19, 2011 11:12 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Norman, what did I tell you? “事實上我想要是我不在這裡發言的話,他的目標就是你了,”你是被人幌了還自以為是,悲哉。

「稱譽奸詐的人,排斥自己厭惡的人,叫做“慝”」,典型的小人作風‧

事實上不是我不明技術而是你自己知識淺薄,所以你跟 Norman 也是一對。

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As I told you, Beg 2 likes agruing, it is ok to arguing ski technique but try not to agrue with him about about character.

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文章 pku » 週三 1月 19, 2011 11:35 pm

norman 寫:您看不出來嗎?他們有您沒有的動作,就是連那女生也沒有我說的動作。

所以在三年前,beg2的滑法跟您的滑法是一樣的,但現在今年的滑法跟您是有差別的,雖然還沒有比您強,但他的技術已高於您了。

至於beg2那段1010年,這滑法已開始有點跟您的動作不一樣了,他也是有您沒有的動作,只是那段steering的動作又更加明顯。

您的動作在這三年幾乎沒有改變,對一個您本來就沒有的動作,您要如何教人呢?

我並非要吹虛我的功勞,也無意改變他人的功勞,我只是說我在意的點及動作,那些無論是哪一派所學,只要學了我說的動作,一定會有改變的,而一但改變後,自然就不會再改變回去了,因為身體會記憶更好的動作。

除非您能來一段跟beg2的steering那段一 (一樣的動作,只要您也有相同的動作,我一定不會說沒有的。 :face (330):
他們有沒有我的動作 is not important, as you said earlier the Whislter Ski school Demo skiing on the level 6 look like the way I ski . The demo guy are CSIA level 4. That means I am on the right track. I don't need to ski like Beg. :face (334): :face (334):

As I said, Beg skiing is too slow since speed can tighten him up very easily.

Beg2 want to train to CSIA level 3 so his skiing should also look like them but he still can't. On the dark side, his skiing look so good in your NSS system. I don't think that's the way he want :face (334): :face (334):

I mostly train them all mountain skiing (skiing bumps , trees, steep and tune their basic to suit different situation. not the basic. After so many years skiing, every one got a bit of their own style.

My skiing already achieve the refinement stage, doesn't really to change a lot but need the get fine tune.

As you can see my video Beg2 typed from behide, almost every turn turning to the left, the tail of the skis wash out a bit but the 2 video I post this year, the tail doesn't wash out much ( This is change, just your 眼力 is so bad, you can't see it )

Don't compare my skiing with your idot, if I can ski like him, I should be the top ot the top skier in Canada. :face (334):

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文章 pku » 週三 1月 19, 2011 11:54 pm

beg 寫:大師和自封為王的大師ー様、不明技術而談技術、只是你不滑雪他滑雪、你保持風度而他心腸歹毒。
Just want to amend for Beg

Norman 大師和自封為王的大師ー様、不明技術而談技術Norman大師 不滑雪他滑雪、你保持風度而他心腸歹毒。[/QUOTE]

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文章 norman » 週四 1月 20, 2011 12:01 am

taichiskiing 寫:Norman, what did I tell you? “事實上我想要是我不在這裡發言的話,他的目標就是你了,”你是被人幌了還自以為是,悲哉。

「稱譽奸詐的人,排斥自己厭惡的人,叫做“慝”」,典型的小人作風‧

:)
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您並不真的了解我的意思,相信人,是一種美德,我不想隨便懷疑人,那會使自己很累,所以我針對他的影片評言,一直有所保留,但得依然要相信,如今真相已明,我反而輕鬆,以免我老是要猜beg兄到底在想什麼,為何他提他自己的影片總是看起來怪怪的,但還是得相信,且我已相信我在這些影片中提到的建議是針對該影片的,如果真的看不懂,那也不是我的問題,我覺得我己儘到我的真我個性了。

我也不排斥您,我對您的言語總是抱著輕鬆的看法,我也從不認為您說的那些話有多嚴重,我指的是您對我說的話,因為我覺得這是您說話的風格,而您對beg兄說的話到後來已經有些嚴重了,我希望那些話能到此就好了,所以只能做折衷的辦法。

不過有時您的話總是不切時宜,如果能針對該篇用詞拿捏,這樣會比較好一些。我也希望別再無恥來無恥去,聊技術是不錯的選項囉。 :face (341):
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#49 回覆: Norman大師眼力有多好

文章 norman » 週四 1月 20, 2011 12:04 am

pku 寫: Beg2 want to train to CSIA level 3 so his skiing should also look like them but he still can't.
您這話已驗證我的話,如果您能組合起我說過的話,您將明白。 :face (334):
pku 寫:My skiing already achieve the refinement stage, doesn't really to change a lot but need the get fine tune.

As you can see my video Beg2 typed from behide, almost every turn turning to the left, the tail of the skis wash out a bit but the 2 video I post this year, the tail doesn't wash out much ( This is change, just your 眼力 is so bad, you can't see it )
容我講兩個字,「悲哀」呀!
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文章 skier888 » 週四 1月 20, 2011 12:33 am

norman 寫:您這話已驗證我的話,如果您能組合起我說過的話,您將明白。 :face (334):



容我講兩個字,「悲哀」呀
你羡慕pku到覺得自己悲哀嗎 :face (46): 「悲哀」呀!您還要幾十年才可以滑到那種程度啊 :face (46): :face (334): :face (334): :face (334):

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文章 norman » 週四 1月 20, 2011 12:40 am

skier888 寫:你羡慕pku到覺得自己悲哀嗎 :face (46): 「悲哀」呀!您還要幾十年才可以滑到那種程度啊 :face (46): :face (334): :face (334): :face (334):
就當我是囉,三年就只為那一點點小到不足以為是的改變而感到進步,厲害呀。 :face (330): :face (334):
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文章 beg » 週四 1月 20, 2011 1:19 am

norman 寫:您並不真的了解我的意思,相信人,是一種美德,我不想隨便懷疑人,那會使自己很累,所以我針對他的影片評言,一直有所保留,但得依然要相信,如今真相已明,我反而輕鬆,以免我老是要猜beg兄到底在想什麼,為何他提他自己的影片總是看起來怪怪的,但還是得相信,且我已相信我在這些影片中提到的建議是針對該影片的,如果真的看不懂,那也不是我的問題,我覺得我己儘到我的真我個性了。

我也不排斥您,我對您的言語總是抱著輕鬆的看法,我也從不認為您說的那些話有多嚴重,我指的是您對我說的話,因為我覺得這是您說話的風格,而您對beg兄說的話到後來已經有些嚴重了,我希望那些話能到此就好了,所以只能做折衷的辦法。

不過有時您的話總是不切時宜,如果能針對該篇用詞拿捏,這樣會比較好一些。我也希望別再無恥來無恥去,聊技術是不錯的選項囉。 :face (341):
這个你是對的、這 forum 己是烏咀狗最後發言之地、你大方点留下他吧。各大中西 forum 已把他趕走了。 :face (336): :face (336): :face (336):

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文章 pku » 週四 1月 20, 2011 1:36 am

norman 寫:就當我是囉,三年就只為那一點點小到不足以為是的改變而感到進步,厲害呀。 :face (330): :face (334):
I need to face the reality, that's what I can do since I'm not talented

Norman大師, you are different, you've already in the 4th level of dream ( The Movie 'Inception' )so you can do whatever you want.

Now it's hard for you to face the reality again. The only way to know if it's real or a dream is " Death " ( once you get back on slope and try to ski down the steep moguls run like your idot. )
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文章 pku » 週四 1月 20, 2011 2:36 am

beg 寫:這个你是對的、這 forum 己是烏咀狗最後發言之地、你大方点留下他吧。各大中西 forum 已把他趕走了。 :face (336): :face (336): :face (336):
First of all, Taichiskiing is just using his way of skiing. His way of skiing is more easy, and the runs he choose is also less tiring. Everybody can have their own preferenceas long as he is not trying to teach you

Since you are a instuctor, of course you'll choose the way you are taught and he way you chosse is more efficient but also creat something that is harder to manage so we need to be technically better.

Just try to be a bit more objective. If you like arguing, argue with both 大師. Don't be so kind to Norman ( may be he appreciate your skiing too much )

In your training with the Level 4, they all said you need more seperation because you doing too much what Norman 大師 suggested: lead with your upper body ( NSS ) technique. :face (334): :face (334):

Norman 大師保持風度 is just because his 面皮厚,
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文章 beg » 週四 1月 20, 2011 4:46 am

pku 寫:First of all, Taichiskiing is just using his way of skiing. His way of skiing is more easy, and the runs he choose is also less tiring. Everybody can have their own preferenceas long as he is not trying to teach you

Since you are a instuctor, of course you'll choose the way you are taught and he way you chosse is more efficient but also creat something that is harder to manage so we need to be technically better.

Just try to be a bit more objective. If you like arguing, argue with both 大師. Don't be so kind to Norman ( may be he appreciate your skiing too much )

In your training with the Level 4, they all said you need more seperation because you doing too much what Norman 大師 suggested: lead with your upper body ( NSS ) technique. :face (334): :face (334):

Norman 大師保持風度 is just because his 面皮厚
I still learning sking on snow, not good enough online sking. Should work harder on Wii ski with my son first.
:face (334): :face (334): :face (334):
Norman 大師面皮厚 but he has good heart like all the others. Taichi is the only one here心腸歹毒.
:face (340): :face (340): :face (340):

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文章 beg » 週四 1月 20, 2011 5:20 am

taichiskiing 寫:Norman, what did I tell you? “事實上我想要是我不在這裡發言的話,他的目標就是你了,”你是被人幌了還自以為是,悲哉。

「稱譽奸詐的人,排斥自己厭惡的人,叫做“慝”」,典型的太監大師小人作風‧

事實上是我不明技術而自己知識淺薄,所以我跟 太極猴猴 也是一對。

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太監大師又捉錯用神、我的目標是分享、妳的目標是硬銷太?滑雪及欺淩意見不同的人。我只 post video 大師ー廂情願地説人學他心法。而太監大師又ー廂情願地嫉妬Norman有粉絲而自己没有至口出毒言、所有事因由太監大師 心胸陜窄、心腸歹毒。
「稱譽奸詐的人,排斥自己厭惡的人,叫做“慝”」,典型的小人作風是太監大師。如 Norman所説、你在這 forum 説了什麼連你自己也不知道。 :face (331): :face (331): :face (331):
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文章 pku » 週四 1月 20, 2011 5:39 am

beg 寫:I still learning sking on snow, not good enough online sking. Should work harder on Wii ski with my son first.
:face (334): :face (334): :face (334):
Norman 大師面皮厚 but he has good heart like all the others. Taichi is the only one here心腸歹毒.
:face (340): :face (340): :face (340):
Norman 大師 got good heart? I doult it.

He try to teach somebody without actually tried by himself. Few years ago he talk how to ski on the forum and a lady beginner skier try to learn from him and got seriously injured. Her husband was so mad at him and Eric Chang, as an instructor was also mad at him like hell. Gradually, Norman was kind of driven away from the ski.com.tw and now develope this forum as the Ski God.

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文章 beg » 週四 1月 20, 2011 6:31 am

pku 寫:Norman 大師 got good heart? I doult it.

He try to teach somebody without actually tried by himself. Few years ago he talk how to ski on the forum and a lady beginner skier try to learn from him and got seriously injured. Her husband was so mad at him and Eric Chang, as an instructor was also mad at him like hell. Gradually, Norman was kind of driven away from the ski.com.tw and now develope this forum as the Ski God.
Wow,that's bad. Beginner should learn with certifiy instructor for safty.Norman & Taichi always trying to teach sking without correct information. Taichi got better balance and quite relax but the problem is he thought that is high end sking and he is sking better than professional instructor and skiers. Norman should ski more and stop collecting information to make his own心法 without trying. :face (326): :face (326): :face (326):If you really like to teach,take a instructor course for understanding teaching system.
I know we have hidden strong skier and instructor here, they prefer share experience instead of showing off.
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文章 norman » 週四 1月 20, 2011 7:57 am

pku 寫:Norman 大師 got good heart? I doult it.

He try to teach somebody without actually tried by himself. Few years ago he talk how to ski on the forum and a lady beginner skier try to learn from him and got seriously injured. Her husband was so mad at him and Eric Chang, as an instructor was also mad at him like hell. Gradually, Norman was kind of driven away from the ski.com.tw and now develope this forum as the Ski God.
經過那一件事後,我會建議想練我的方法,要去綠線上練,另一點一定要練完我製作的心法全套後,弄清楚我在講什麼後,再去練。

我也相信有人在雪場上上完課後,在雪場上發生意外的,不知這要算誰負責。

當然,為此事我也自責很久,所以採用更簡單的家裏練習,幾乎沒風險,喝水噎死總不能怪水的錯吧? :tusky (69):
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#60 回覆: Norman大師眼力有多好

文章 norman » 週四 1月 20, 2011 7:58 am

pku 寫:
In your training with the Level 4, they all said you need more seperation because you doing too much what Norman 大師 suggested: lead with your upper body ( NSS ) technique. :face (334): :face (334):
不意謂真的了解我的意思,同時那是您的CSIA系統。
目前總滑天數80天。繼續累積中...我想滑雪。 :face (292): :face (292): :face (292):

滑雪人

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