CSIA L1 instructor

[norman]

大師讓我想起一個絕世高手歐陽峰

西毒歐陽峰：

1、一代宗師：自創蛤蟆功，將西域的毒物配合武功，發揮的淋漓盡致。
2、武學奇才：將黃蓉和郭靖亂改的九陰真經練出另一套新武功，不但自己克服了其中的矛盾點，還自己練就「經脈逆行」。

是這個樣子的嗎？

這是第二次聽到有人提這個名字了耶。 nion (93):

[ams]

西毒歐陽峰：

1、一代宗師：自創蛤蟆功，將西域的毒物配合武功，發揮的淋漓盡致。
2、武學奇才：將黃蓉和郭靖亂改的九陰真經練出另一套新武功，不但自己克服了其中的矛盾點，還自己練就「經脈逆行」。

是這個樣子的嗎？

這是第二次聽到有人提這個名字了耶。 nion (93):

利害, 利害, 世上能有多少這些利害人物.

[skier666]

西毒歐陽峰：

1、一代宗師：自創蛤蟆功，將西域的毒物配合武功，發揮的淋漓盡致。
2、武學奇才：將大師亂改的九陰真經練出另一套新武功，不但自己克服了其中的矛盾點，還自己練就「經脈逆行」。

是這個樣子的嗎？

對鴨。你更厲害，不需要人幫忙，自導自唱

「我是誰」 「我是誰」 「我是誰」 哈 哈 哈

[beg]

YouTube- thom.AVI

This is a new L1 instructor. I took one private lesson under table with him last season. Looks like Norman大師 ski better than him.各大師有何高見？

Hi Beg and PSBoy - sorry for replying late. I knew that this would like throwing a bomb and stirring up some discussion. Also I knew that the discussion would have some disagreement between personal opinions. I would like to take it (my argument) back if I could. Anyway, here are only how "I" think:

1. Pole planting or pole swinging not natural - while it's not required to have pole planting or swinging in that kind of run, he tries to do that with no natural rhythm.
2. Ankle not bending forward enough
3. Two skis out of sync - can seen from 9 to 14 second
4. Not dynamic enough - up/down not quite correct

這其實是剛考到 L1 時拍的
YouTube- thom.AVI




意外打開舊討論串，Snowrider 兄評語很中肯，現放上去年的片，也請Snowrider 兄指教。

2011 spring skiing - YouTube

[snowrider]

beg - 我越滑越覺得我自感覺羞愧及不好意思 (因為我自己滑雪有許多的問題 - 當看了自己的片子之後才發現我自己滑得很差) ... 從你的L1片子來看 CSIA 的 L1 滑得比 PSIA 的 L1 還要好! 我當時是胡亂點評的 ... 請見諒! 現在回過頭來再看一遍你當時L1的片子 ... 覺得你滑得很好! 唯一想要說的就是 elbows 能夠收進來一些就更好了!

About the 2011 Spring Skiing video, that was on a steep diamond slope. When we are in some tougher environment, any of our problems will be magnified. It is easier to see our problems on black trails than that of blue trails. See the skier's elbows open up a lot, which prevent the skier from making efficiently quick pole swing. Balance - The skier is in good balance overall, while sometimes heaps sink a bit too much (see 0:21) probably because of the steep terrain. Rotation - The skier shows some whole-body rotation without much counter (see 0:07). Pressue Control - The skier's flex/extend mainly comes from heap socket instead of ankles (see 0:21), while ankles are favorable. Edging Movement - The skier sometimes (see: 0:32) does not move two skis simultaneously (probably because of the steep terrain), which causes the corresponding edges do not engage at the same time. This problem occurs sometimes when the skier is making right turns, while left turns are good. However, overall the skier has demonstrated a good parallel skiing (most of the time) on a steep slope. Direction Movement - If the skier can commit more of the body movement to the skiing direction (i.e., downhill), it would be nice! Practice suggestion - to practice cross-under short radius turn on blue trails, and to practice javelin turn on black trails.

這其實是剛考到 L1 時拍的
YouTube- thom.AVI



意外打開舊討論串，Snowrider 兄評語很中肯，現放上去年的片，也請Snowrider 兄指教。

2011 spring skiing - YouTube

[beg]

beg - 我越滑越覺得我自感覺羞愧及不好意思 (因為我自己滑雪有許多的問題 - 當看了自己的片子之後才發現我自己滑得很差) ... 從你的L1片子來看 CSIA 的 L1 滑得比 PSIA 的 L1 還要好! 我當時是胡亂點評的 ... 請見諒! 現在回過頭來再看一遍你當時L1的片子 ... 覺得你滑得很好! 唯一想要說的就是 elbows 能夠收進來一些就更好了!

About the 2011 Spring Skiing video, that was on a steep diamond slope. When we are in some tougher environment, any of our problems will be magnified. It is easier to see our problems on black trails than that of blue trails. See the skier's elbows open up a lot, which prevent the skier from making efficiently quick pole swing. Balance - The skier is in good balance overall, while sometimes heaps sink a bit too much (see 0:21) probably because of the steep terrain. Rotation - The skier shows some whole-body rotation without much counter (see 0:07). Pressue Control - The skier's flex/extend mainly comes from heap socket instead of ankles (see 0:21), while ankles are favorable. Edging Movement - The skier sometimes (see: 0:32) does not move two skis simultaneously (probably because of the steep terrain), which causes the corresponding edges do not engage at the same time. This problem occurs sometimes when the skier is making right turns, while left turns are good. However, overall the skier has demonstrated a good parallel skiing (most of the time) on a steep slope. Direction Movement - If the skier can commit more of the body movement to the skiing direction (i.e., downhill), it would be nice! Practice suggestion - to practice cross-under short radius turn on blue trails, and to practice javelin turn on black trails.

Wow Snowrider you have good eyes and you demonstrate what is how to be a good instructor.

Your assesment is detail and accurate.
Your feedback is positive.
You provide drills for improvement.

You see quite a lot in a short video. About my elbows, PKU keep reminds me but a bad habbit is not easy to erase.
Just one point of the ext/flex mainly from heap socket I might not 100% agree. The knee joints have some visible movements there too. What do you think?

[norman]

beg，不管你聽不聽，也不管這影片是不是你的，我是覺得手肘不是真正的問題，打開一點不會影響到點杖的節奏。點杖有進步了，至少點實了，不像之前那一段都只是點虛而已。

你唯一需要先改的動作就是，你點杖點到雪地的那一瞬間開始，你的雙腳沒有轉，你不過是橫越繼續前進再進行壓邊轉彎而已。是往山下方向伸縮，不是這麼早就橫向左右伸縮，方向根本就是錯的。只有雙腳在這時機點轉動向山下伸縮才是正確的。

所以示範片有教這個動作，你也看過，是橫向走是沒錯，但要這樣走，你橫滑走太多了，所以雙腳等於是慢了一步往山下轉了，不過你把動作方向看錯了。

另外，這2011短片中有小bump，你的橫越bump的方向也是不對的，起因就是你的雙腳沒有轉動，上坡就要一邊轉動雙腳了，而不是到坡頂才開始轉動雙腳，所以看起來滑得蠻辛苦的。

看得出來，你的收腳是用蹲下去的動作，不過我說的這點一樣能用你這方法練習及做，沒影響的，所以還是在一般滑道多練練吧。

[snowrider]

Wow Snowrider you have good eyes and you demonstrate what is how to be a good instructor.

Your assesment is detail and accurate.
Your feedback is positive.
You provide drills for improvement.

You see quite a lot in a short video. About my elbows, PKU keep reminds me but a bad habbit is not easy to erase.
Just one point of the ext/flex mainly from heap socket I might not 100% agree. The knee joints have some visible movements there too. What do you think?

Hi beg - Yes, I did see the skier used knees and heaps. I should have said that the skier did not utilize ankles much for flexion and extension. That is one of the differences between L2 skiing and L1 skiing. Since heap joints and knee joints are much bigger than ankles, most people use big muscles and big joints to ski and turn. The subtle piece and the harder one is to utilize ankles - to open and close ankles to perfect the stance to the state where upper body is always in parallel movement with tibia.

[beg]

Hi beg - Yes, I did see the skier used knees and heaps. I should have said that the skier did not utilize ankles much for flexion and extension. That is one of the differences between L2 skiing and L1 skiing. Since heap joints and knee joints are much bigger than ankles, most people use big muscles and big joints to ski and turn. The subtle piece and the harder one is to utilize ankles - to open and close ankles to perfect the stance to the state where upper body is always in parallel movement with tibia.

Thanks Snowrider , and thanks Norman for your world class professional comments.

[snowrider]

Thanks Snowrider , and thanks Norman for your world class professional comments.

beg - 你不要笑我 ... 我也是一直在學習中! 弱慢兄可能真的會很enjoy你感謝他的世界級的評論

[norman]

beg - 你不要笑我 ... 我也是一直在學習中! 弱慢兄可能真的會很enjoy你感謝他的世界級的評論

這倒不會，因為我對這口頭說說的並不在意。

要我「享受」，等照我的方法練對後再來說也不遲吧？

雖然那說的容易，但做沒那麼容易，做對練完成了，就是L3的程度技術了。

不過我是懷疑有沒有看懂我的意思，看不懂不會練也沒用吧？

[pku]

做對練完成了

誰這麼厲害

[norman]

誰這麼厲害

懂得方法練，自然就容易很多，不懂的方法做，當然很難囉。

我說的那向下伸縮的滑線，是那段2011年影片動作所需要的動態平衡是接近2倍，過程的平衡變化速度也是接近兩倍，只要能在轉動同時保持高穩定的動態平衡，整個轉彎無法保持穩定點杖及轉彎節奏感也轉不下去，太用力轉沒伸縮就會變成pivot了，那也沒意義囉。

不過也不代表難練，我已說了，除了有方法訣竅練外，其他就是多努力自己試練囉，沒方法訣竅就是靠自己土法練鋼把路線滑線努力多練久一點也是可以練得出來的，只是練的時間比較長一點而已。

[beg]

這倒不會，因為我對這口頭說說的並不在意。

要我「享受」，等照我的方法練對後再來說也不遲吧？

雖然那說的容易，但做沒那麼容易，做對練完成了，就是L3的程度技術了。

不過我是懷疑有沒有看懂我的意思，看不懂不會練也沒用吧？

妳是不用懷疑、我是看得懂妳的意思、若至。。。。。。。吹。。。。。。牛、天下第ー。

[norman]

妳是不用懷疑、我是看得懂妳的意思、若至。。。。。。。吹。。。。。。牛、天下第ー。

早說了，最好別信，別照我這方向去練。

[pku]

懂得方法練，自然就容易很多，不懂的方法做，當然很難囉。

我說的那向下伸縮的滑線，是那段2011年影片動作所需要的動態平衡是接近2倍，過程的平衡變化速度也是接近兩倍，只要能在轉動同時保持高穩定的動態平衡，整個轉彎無法保持穩定點杖及轉彎節奏感也轉不下去，太用力轉沒伸縮就會變成pivot了，那也沒意義囉。

不過也不代表難練，我已說了，除了有方法訣竅練外，其他就是多努力自己試練囉，沒方法訣竅就是靠自己土法練鋼把路線滑線努力多練久一點也是可以練得出來的，只是練的時間比較長一點而已。

動態平衡做的好，談何容易

你現在滑出來仍是高級初學者，連在小叮噹也滑到醜態百出。你的心法要是有用，在小叮噹也應該有點台型，

就算小叮噹可滑到似模似樣，仍與練成差別很大

[pku]

早說了，最好別信，別照我這方向去練。

只有你自己才信你的心法，所以才醜態百出

[norman]

動態平衡做的好，談何容易

你現在滑出來仍是高級初學者，連在小叮噹也滑到醜態百出。你的心法要是有用，在小叮噹也應該有點台型，

就算小叮噹可滑到似模似樣，仍與練成差別很大

你沒滑過室內滑雪場，所以你認為跟戶外會有實際的差異。

而我還沒到大雪場拍動作，也不足以證明我能不能跟在室內滑雪場一樣的動作及能產生什樣的動作效果？

我有信心是因為我知道，你看不出及分辨不出差別，所以才會這麼以為。

[pku]

你沒滑過室內滑雪場，所以你認為跟戶外會有實際的差異。

而我還沒到大雪場拍動作，也不足以證明我能不能跟在室內滑雪場一樣的動作及能產生什樣的動作效果？

我有信心是因為我知道，你看不出及分辨不出差別，所以才會這麼以為。

我看得出及分辨得出你的技術差，你有信心是知道你一定找藉口不出門滑

[norman]

我看得出及分辨得出你的技術差，你有信心是知道你一定找藉口不出門滑

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