#1 How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週日 3月 17, 2019 10:07 am
有沒有人要說說看，看了這短片後的感想？
有沒有中文翻譯？
把這些英文看完要搞好久 ....
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#2 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週日 3月 17, 2019 11:05 am
#3 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週一 3月 18, 2019 1:53 pm
剛剛才發現，這字幕可以自動翻譯成中文，雖然翻出來的還是看不太懂！norman 寫:有沒有人要說說看，看了這短片後的感想？
另外這部片滑的都是乾鬆雪，有沒有講怎麼滑濕鬆雪的？
#4 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週一 3月 18, 2019 2:36 pm
以前有貼過，你看不懂的啦，都只會自以為看得懂，結果都是錯的。lelo 寫:剛剛才發現，這字幕可以自動翻譯成中文，雖然翻出來的還是看不太懂！
另外這部片滑的都是乾鬆雪，有沒有講怎麼滑濕鬆雪的？
Expert Ski Lessons #8.4 - Skiing Variable Snow / Chopped up Powder / Crud - YouTube
Tips Up – How To Steer Your Skis Through Powder - YouTube
#5 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週四 3月 21, 2019 2:32 pm
okay guys, finally we have the powder day all right, so powder day is the kind of day that a lot of people love.
好吧，夥伴們，我們終於等到鬆雪了，很多人喜歡都這樣的鬆雪天氣。
okay, but there's some folks that aren't you psyched about it, because they don't know how to ski it, so let's go over some of the basics for skiing powder.
好吧，但是有一些人卻對鬆雪不感興趣，因為他們不知道如何滑鬆雪，所以讓我們來看看滑鬆雪的一些基礎知識。
okay, well, we're just standing here right now. I'd like both of you to lean way back. okay, and now jump. how's that ? that's tough, isn't it?
好！好！我們現在在這裡這樣站著， 我希望你們兩個都能往後倒。 好！現在跳， 怎麼樣 ？ 這樣很難跳，不是嗎？
okay, now let's get nice and centered your ankles, bending on your shins. our weight pressing into the front of your boots. we kind of bounce while we're standing here.
好！現在讓我們改進一下，把你的腳踝放回中間，彎曲你的小腿。 我們的體重會壓在雪靴前半部。 當我們這樣站時，我們會很容易跳起來。
okay, now let's jump while we're standing here. is that a little easier than it was when you were way back ? this bouncing idea is really works to our advantage and we're skiing powder okay.
好！現在我們站在這裡時跳起來吧。 那比你往後傾斜的時候容易一點吧？ 以這樣的站立方法來做彈跳，會對我們很有幫助，這樣就可以滑好鬆雪。
so we're going to go straight down this moderate piste. alright, you'll get a little bit of speed, and I want you guys to just bounce like a trampoline.and notice and feel when you sink into the snow that you slow down.
接著我們要以直滑的方式，滑這條中級雪道。對！這樣你的速度會比較快一點，我希望你們像蹦床一樣彈跳，當你沉入雪中時，注意一下，你會感覺到你速度放慢了！
and then you come up, and then you sink into the snow, and you slow down. all of this snow around your feet, helps you with your speed control and powder okay. so let's get this bouncing feeling happening.
接著你會浮上來，然後再沉入雪中，然後你慢下來。 所有這些圍繞在你腳旁的雪，都會幫助你控制速度跟滑好鬆雪。來，讓我們來感受這種蹦蹦跳跳的感覺。
did you - by any chance see my video where I carved out a little hollow in the snow, I put my skis on edge and I bent the ski. and then you kind of get this trampolining effect when you carve. it's a similar sort of thing when we're in the powder.
你們有沒有 - 曾經看過我的視頻，我在雪地上刻滑出一個小圓弧時，我把雪板立在鋼邊上，我讓滑雪板彎曲起來。 這樣在你刻滑時，就會有這種蹦床反彈的效果。 這跟我們滑鬆雪時，是一個很類似的東西。
when you bounce up and down, your ski bends it bends down into the snow, and then you've got some energy. that that bent ski actually helps propel you, and that can help almost bounce you out of the snow.
當你上下跳動時，你的雪板會彎曲下降到雪地裡，然後你就會有一些能量。 彎曲的雪板實際上有助於推動你，這可以幫助你幾乎將你從雪中彈回來。
so when you have your momentum going through the powder, you're making your teeth your turn. and you press into the snow with both of your feet bang, can help bounce you out of the snow. then you press and it bounces you out of the snow, and with these traversing and the bouncing it's giving you that feeling of flexing and extending, flexing, extending.
所以，當你的動量穿越鬆雪時，你就可以輪到你了。 你用兩隻腳砰的一聲壓入雪中，可以幫助你將你從雪中彈出來。 然後你壓下它，它會把你從雪中彈出來，通過這些穿越和彈跳，它給你對彎曲和伸展的感覺。彎曲、伸展。
so we're gonna make a few turns on the firmer snow, and do one more little exercise, and then bring it back into the powder.
接著我們要在堅硬的雪面上滑幾圈，再做一點運動，然後再回來滑鬆雪。
okay I'd like you to make make a line in the snow now. you could make a line in the snow you know how we do, that we sit on our poles we drag our poles and we make a line right behind us. we could do that, but I want to be able to do a demo.so if you can go straight ahead skis together. you're going to give us kind of a reference line, that we're going to use for this exercise.
好！我希望你現在在雪地裡劃一條線。 你可以在雪地上劃一條線，你知道我們是怎麼做的，我們坐在我們的雪杖上，我們拖著雪杖，在我們身後劃出一條線。 我們可以做到這一點，但我要做一下示範，接著如果你可以併著雪板直線前進， 你可以給我們一些參考線，我們將用這條線來練習。
what we're gonna do. guys jump over the center line, land in turn. we're gonna get this bouncy action happening in our turns. okay, I'm going to show you, because I'm gonna give you a demo.
孩子們，接下來我們要做的是，跳過中間線，並在轉彎時著地。我們可以在轉彎時得到反彈的動力。好！接下來我滑給你們看，幫你們做個示範。
okay, and seeders gonna make it just right down the fall line. Cedar you're gonna be jumping over that line good bouncy out of angles, and your knees we're not bouncing with through our back and arms.
okay, we're just nice and quiet upper body bouncing out of our ankles and knees. okay, we're turn and bounce over the line, they were kind of seeing the timing of the bounce. nice turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce.
there's some good bouncy action happening. you know what they say caiman no friends on a powder day. you sure you want to show me your special stash. let's draw the line down the fall line make our turn, and hop over the line, and make our turn hunt and hop over the line just so weak, that we've got a little more pitch.
remember you guys when people are skiing powder, and they're less experienced. and maybe they're a little scared. they get back here right and what how is it to jump from back here ? yeah it's hard.
you're just plowing through this heavy snow, and you're stuck. you can't make your legs long. you can't make your legs short. right, we're we're nice and balanced. we get this hopping effect happening our skis get lighter then we can turn. our skis get lighter and then we can turn.
okay, it's really important to be athletic and active, and when I say active, I mean your legs are short and long. short and long, short and long, and you can't do that from back here.
okay, so I'll make the line, and then afterwards you guys make your turn. then hop make your turn, and hop here's your line down. the fall line let's see you make your turn and hop over that line nice, and centered over your Skeets.
don't forget our poll plants came in nice, and bouncy with your poll plants go ahead. oh ! yeah ! the natural next step you guys we traversed and we bounced. we did the fall line turn and bounce.
now, we're gonna be on a groomed rottweil a run, that was groomed last night that has nice fresh powder on it. so you know what to expect in terms of the surface. so go ahead and eye your line and let's get that nice bouncy. flowy feeling through this powder.
Cayman go big nice job, good job guys. it's time to take it into the moguls. one thing that is for sure about you, two is you guys love this it is awesome and it shows in your skiing.
guys okay ! so mogul run what we're gonna. show all of your you ten buddies is really awesome. pulp lamps which you guys have really uggs awesome absorption of those bumps in the powder, and also you guys have really good tactics, which means you're not coming across the hill too far. and slowing down.
you're keeping your momentum while you're turning. going down the hill which is really helpful in this deep snow. so let's see it guys just like you've been skiing all morning. you we're as eight and nine-year-olds.
we have our one pair of skis. we might have two at the most right. and on powder days. there's folks that have really fat big skis, and you can just sort of squiggle down, and stay on top, and a floating over this powder for us with wit just our our one pair, and that definitely is not a fat ski.
all this very active dynamic skiing is important, and it's good. I mean people your age can be totally centered as you guys are really active. good pull plants, you don't need a really fat ski. you can use whatever tool. you've got and rip this stuff up and this is what we have.
so let's have fun with it freshies adrian practicing getting bouncy, then you can just ski the spirit of that exercise flexing and standing without actually jumping.
hey ! Adrian I see you really practicing that which is awesome, and then once you feel like, you've really got the timing and tempo of it. you don't actually have to jump, but you can ski the spirit of that exercise. you extend and then you flex and extend and bounce.
it's kind of a it's just a a soft subtle bouncing through this powder. so fun this right here is really good terrain for that trampoline. II bouncy introduction to the powder progression. this is perfect bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce,
well and seeing the powder come up around your feet. you guys that's something that's so unique about powder, because that helps slow you down. all that powder around your feet is a lot of resistance, and some friction, and it helps control your speed in the powder.
when you're on groomers you use your turn shape. you know and you're making those nice carve turns. so that you don't get going too fast when you're.
when you're in the powder. you can, and your turn you sort of press down into that pouf, and then you come up, then you flex the knees, and you press down into that pouf, and you're. so you're working extension and flexion, and that's what helps control your speed.
in the pattern you don't have to come across the hill so much. that makes sense, and that's what you guys do really well what came in. you don't have to exactly, because there's all of that pouf around your feet, and flying up into your face, and needing a snorkel you as turning your legs and absorbing the Moghuls it was awesome you you
好吧，夥伴們，我們終於等到鬆雪了，很多人喜歡都這樣的鬆雪天氣。
okay, but there's some folks that aren't you psyched about it, because they don't know how to ski it, so let's go over some of the basics for skiing powder.
好吧，但是有一些人卻對鬆雪不感興趣，因為他們不知道如何滑鬆雪，所以讓我們來看看滑鬆雪的一些基礎知識。
okay, well, we're just standing here right now. I'd like both of you to lean way back. okay, and now jump. how's that ? that's tough, isn't it?
好！好！我們現在在這裡這樣站著， 我希望你們兩個都能往後倒。 好！現在跳， 怎麼樣 ？ 這樣很難跳，不是嗎？
okay, now let's get nice and centered your ankles, bending on your shins. our weight pressing into the front of your boots. we kind of bounce while we're standing here.
好！現在讓我們改進一下，把你的腳踝放回中間，彎曲你的小腿。 我們的體重會壓在雪靴前半部。 當我們這樣站時，我們會很容易跳起來。
okay, now let's jump while we're standing here. is that a little easier than it was when you were way back ? this bouncing idea is really works to our advantage and we're skiing powder okay.
好！現在我們站在這裡時跳起來吧。 那比你往後傾斜的時候容易一點吧？ 以這樣的站立方法來做彈跳，會對我們很有幫助，這樣就可以滑好鬆雪。
so we're going to go straight down this moderate piste. alright, you'll get a little bit of speed, and I want you guys to just bounce like a trampoline.and notice and feel when you sink into the snow that you slow down.
接著我們要以直滑的方式，滑這條中級雪道。對！這樣你的速度會比較快一點，我希望你們像蹦床一樣彈跳，當你沉入雪中時，注意一下，你會感覺到你速度放慢了！
and then you come up, and then you sink into the snow, and you slow down. all of this snow around your feet, helps you with your speed control and powder okay. so let's get this bouncing feeling happening.
接著你會浮上來，然後再沉入雪中，然後你慢下來。 所有這些圍繞在你腳旁的雪，都會幫助你控制速度跟滑好鬆雪。來，讓我們來感受這種蹦蹦跳跳的感覺。
did you - by any chance see my video where I carved out a little hollow in the snow, I put my skis on edge and I bent the ski. and then you kind of get this trampolining effect when you carve. it's a similar sort of thing when we're in the powder.
你們有沒有 - 曾經看過我的視頻，我在雪地上刻滑出一個小圓弧時，我把雪板立在鋼邊上，我讓滑雪板彎曲起來。 這樣在你刻滑時，就會有這種蹦床反彈的效果。 這跟我們滑鬆雪時，是一個很類似的東西。
when you bounce up and down, your ski bends it bends down into the snow, and then you've got some energy. that that bent ski actually helps propel you, and that can help almost bounce you out of the snow.
當你上下跳動時，你的雪板會彎曲下降到雪地裡，然後你就會有一些能量。 彎曲的雪板實際上有助於推動你，這可以幫助你幾乎將你從雪中彈回來。
so when you have your momentum going through the powder, you're making your teeth your turn. and you press into the snow with both of your feet bang, can help bounce you out of the snow. then you press and it bounces you out of the snow, and with these traversing and the bouncing it's giving you that feeling of flexing and extending, flexing, extending.
所以，當你的動量穿越鬆雪時，你就可以輪到你了。 你用兩隻腳砰的一聲壓入雪中，可以幫助你將你從雪中彈出來。 然後你壓下它，它會把你從雪中彈出來，通過這些穿越和彈跳，它給你對彎曲和伸展的感覺。彎曲、伸展。
so we're gonna make a few turns on the firmer snow, and do one more little exercise, and then bring it back into the powder.
接著我們要在堅硬的雪面上滑幾圈，再做一點運動，然後再回來滑鬆雪。
okay I'd like you to make make a line in the snow now. you could make a line in the snow you know how we do, that we sit on our poles we drag our poles and we make a line right behind us. we could do that, but I want to be able to do a demo.so if you can go straight ahead skis together. you're going to give us kind of a reference line, that we're going to use for this exercise.
好！我希望你現在在雪地裡劃一條線。 你可以在雪地上劃一條線，你知道我們是怎麼做的，我們坐在我們的雪杖上，我們拖著雪杖，在我們身後劃出一條線。 我們可以做到這一點，但我要做一下示範，接著如果你可以併著雪板直線前進， 你可以給我們一些參考線，我們將用這條線來練習。
what we're gonna do. guys jump over the center line, land in turn. we're gonna get this bouncy action happening in our turns. okay, I'm going to show you, because I'm gonna give you a demo.
孩子們，接下來我們要做的是，跳過中間線，並在轉彎時著地。我們可以在轉彎時得到反彈的動力。好！接下來我滑給你們看，幫你們做個示範。
okay, and seeders gonna make it just right down the fall line. Cedar you're gonna be jumping over that line good bouncy out of angles, and your knees we're not bouncing with through our back and arms.
okay, we're just nice and quiet upper body bouncing out of our ankles and knees. okay, we're turn and bounce over the line, they were kind of seeing the timing of the bounce. nice turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce turn bounce.
there's some good bouncy action happening. you know what they say caiman no friends on a powder day. you sure you want to show me your special stash. let's draw the line down the fall line make our turn, and hop over the line, and make our turn hunt and hop over the line just so weak, that we've got a little more pitch.
remember you guys when people are skiing powder, and they're less experienced. and maybe they're a little scared. they get back here right and what how is it to jump from back here ? yeah it's hard.
you're just plowing through this heavy snow, and you're stuck. you can't make your legs long. you can't make your legs short. right, we're we're nice and balanced. we get this hopping effect happening our skis get lighter then we can turn. our skis get lighter and then we can turn.
okay, it's really important to be athletic and active, and when I say active, I mean your legs are short and long. short and long, short and long, and you can't do that from back here.
okay, so I'll make the line, and then afterwards you guys make your turn. then hop make your turn, and hop here's your line down. the fall line let's see you make your turn and hop over that line nice, and centered over your Skeets.
don't forget our poll plants came in nice, and bouncy with your poll plants go ahead. oh ! yeah ! the natural next step you guys we traversed and we bounced. we did the fall line turn and bounce.
now, we're gonna be on a groomed rottweil a run, that was groomed last night that has nice fresh powder on it. so you know what to expect in terms of the surface. so go ahead and eye your line and let's get that nice bouncy. flowy feeling through this powder.
Cayman go big nice job, good job guys. it's time to take it into the moguls. one thing that is for sure about you, two is you guys love this it is awesome and it shows in your skiing.
guys okay ! so mogul run what we're gonna. show all of your you ten buddies is really awesome. pulp lamps which you guys have really uggs awesome absorption of those bumps in the powder, and also you guys have really good tactics, which means you're not coming across the hill too far. and slowing down.
you're keeping your momentum while you're turning. going down the hill which is really helpful in this deep snow. so let's see it guys just like you've been skiing all morning. you we're as eight and nine-year-olds.
we have our one pair of skis. we might have two at the most right. and on powder days. there's folks that have really fat big skis, and you can just sort of squiggle down, and stay on top, and a floating over this powder for us with wit just our our one pair, and that definitely is not a fat ski.
all this very active dynamic skiing is important, and it's good. I mean people your age can be totally centered as you guys are really active. good pull plants, you don't need a really fat ski. you can use whatever tool. you've got and rip this stuff up and this is what we have.
so let's have fun with it freshies adrian practicing getting bouncy, then you can just ski the spirit of that exercise flexing and standing without actually jumping.
hey ! Adrian I see you really practicing that which is awesome, and then once you feel like, you've really got the timing and tempo of it. you don't actually have to jump, but you can ski the spirit of that exercise. you extend and then you flex and extend and bounce.
it's kind of a it's just a a soft subtle bouncing through this powder. so fun this right here is really good terrain for that trampoline. II bouncy introduction to the powder progression. this is perfect bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce,
well and seeing the powder come up around your feet. you guys that's something that's so unique about powder, because that helps slow you down. all that powder around your feet is a lot of resistance, and some friction, and it helps control your speed in the powder.
when you're on groomers you use your turn shape. you know and you're making those nice carve turns. so that you don't get going too fast when you're.
when you're in the powder. you can, and your turn you sort of press down into that pouf, and then you come up, then you flex the knees, and you press down into that pouf, and you're. so you're working extension and flexion, and that's what helps control your speed.
in the pattern you don't have to come across the hill so much. that makes sense, and that's what you guys do really well what came in. you don't have to exactly, because there's all of that pouf around your feet, and flying up into your face, and needing a snorkel you as turning your legs and absorbing the Moghuls it was awesome you you
#6 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 8:50 am
何必這麼麻煩？
你可以按那個齒輪鈕設定，把它改成繁體中文翻譯就行了，雖然翻得有點爛，但如果懂的就看得懂了，但這你也別費力浪費時間了，跳樓梯是沒有用的，你也沒小朋友這麼有體力，體力強最大的好處就是好好學的話，進步更快，加上人矮壓力就輕，高個子大人就沒這個優勢。
你可以按那個齒輪鈕設定，把它改成繁體中文翻譯就行了，雖然翻得有點爛，但如果懂的就看得懂了，但這你也別費力浪費時間了，跳樓梯是沒有用的，你也沒小朋友這麼有體力，體力強最大的好處就是好好學的話，進步更快，加上人矮壓力就輕，高個子大人就沒這個優勢。
#7 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 10:07 am
我知道啊！就是看不懂啊！norman 寫:何必這麼麻煩？
你可以按那個齒輪鈕設定，把它改成繁體中文翻譯就行了，雖然翻得有點爛，但如果懂的就看得懂了
你看的懂，講解一遍來聽聽！
#8 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 10:17 am
不要，因為對滑雪天數太少的人來講，是沒有幫忙的，而且累死人的滑法對正確的動作幫助不大。lelo 寫:我知道啊！就是看不懂啊！
你看的懂，講解一遍來聽聽！
#9 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 10:20 am
根本看不懂！norman 寫:不要，因為對滑雪天數太少的人來講，是沒有幫忙的，而且累死人的滑法對正確的動作幫助不大。
就只是看影片說故事！
#10 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 10:24 am
隨你，你愛跳就去跳吧，至少像影片内的淺輕鬆雪跟小饅頭是沒問題的。lelo 寫:根本看不懂！
就只是看影片說故事！
#11 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 10:40 am
說真的，影片中的教練，在下面的回覆裡，她的教法備受推崇。norman 寫:隨你，你愛跳就去跳吧，至少像影片内的淺輕鬆雪跟小饅頭是沒問題的。
你教兒子時，應該跟人家學學！
#12 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 11:58 am
你是沒看懂嗎？這練習不適合初學者，中級可以練，但上級不適合練。人家是住在有雪場的國家，你跟人家比得上滑雪日嗎？lelo 寫:說真的，影片中的教練，在下面的回覆裡，她的教法備受推崇。
你教兒子時，應該跟人家學學！
不懂就別胡亂建議，不然就跟你一樣慘！
#13 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 12:02 pm
我當然知道不適合初學者！norman 寫:你是沒看懂嗎？這練習不適合初學者，中級可以練，但上級不適合練。人家是住在有雪場的國家，你跟人家比得上滑雪日嗎？
不懂就別胡亂建議，不然就跟你一樣慘！
光開始的直線崩跳下滑，連中級的都有點困難！
我只是要你學學人家的教法而已！
#14 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 12:07 pm
為何？lelo 寫:我當然知道不適合初學者！
光開始的直線崩跳下滑，連中級的都有點困難！
我只是要你學學人家的教法而已！
我有更好的教法，幹嘛學她的教法？
#15 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 12:10 pm
說來聽聽！哈！norman 寫: 我有更好的教法，幹嘛學她的教法？
#16 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 12:22 pm
你聽也沒用，你只要知道，這次一次去滑雪，六天內就能下點杖黑線饅。lelo 寫:說來聽聽！哈！
#17 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 12:33 pm
小孩子體重輕，下黑線有什麼稀奇？點杖擺擺樣子誰不會？norman 寫:你聽也沒用，你只要知道，這次一次去滑雪，六天內就能下點杖黑線饅。
你要一個人模仿教練的姿勢並不難，但會不會滑雪，要看他能不能以各種姿勢亂滑！
#18 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 2:01 pm
聽你在亂講，那你什麼不模仿教練的姿勢來看看？lelo 寫:小孩子體重輕，下黑線有什麼稀奇？點杖擺擺樣子誰不會？
你要一個人模仿教練的姿勢並不難，但會不會滑雪，要看他能不能以各種姿勢亂滑！
什麼叫做各種姿勢亂滑？你到現在也只有一種姿勢而已，還好意思講？
還有，又不是你，點杖擺擺樣子，要是這樣子，我也不敢讓我家人去滑黑線饅頭，當然是有實際點杖效果，你看第一篇的影片，兩位小朋友看起來像點杖擺擺樣子嗎？要是連點杖都不會用，雪場教練也不敢帶著去教如何下饅頭，就你完全不懂，還亂講！
能不能下黑線跟體重輕沒關係，動作沒練好也不用去黑線去摔傷自己吧？
#19 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 2:31 pm
我第一次去藏王時，就有個小孩子，滑了兩、三天，就被帶開去滑紅線。norman 寫: 能不能下黑線跟體重輕沒關係，動作沒練好也不用去黑線去摔傷自己吧？
這時他的老爸，還在綠線用全制動奮鬥。因為山上的綠線太陡，又被帶回山下去。
#20 回覆: How to ski the powder progression
發表於 : 週五 3月 22, 2019 3:15 pm
那是還沒教好，小孩子是用本能去轉彎，上紅線容易，上黑線饅頭就不是那麼容易了，如果小孩的老爸還在全制動，那就可以看出教練的程度了，我教的話，第一天下午通常就能開始練習點杖併腿滑了，不然最少也會半制動了，這種進步速度是無法可比的。lelo 寫:我第一次去藏王時，就有個小孩子，滑了兩、三天，就被帶開去滑紅線。
這時他的老爸，還在綠線用全制動奮鬥。因為山上的綠線太陡，又被帶回山下去。
還有，我記得你第一次去藏王只滑三天的樣子，小孩滑兩三天就被帶去滑紅線，而你還一直在綠線，會不會不好意思呀？