他們會滑雪嗎? 看上去還不過是自然或 hip-bone width 吧?

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以我覺得大成後的看法有些改變了。

在未大成前，應努力往窄站姿練，而大成後，寬窄站姿就不是重點了，而是使用的動作是什麼來決定寬窄站姿，動作的正確發力比寬窄站姿重要。

norman 寫:以我覺得大成後的看法有些改變了。

在未大成前，應努力往窄站姿練，而大成後，寬窄站姿就不是重點了，而是使用的動作是什麼來決定寬窄站姿，動作的正確發力比寬窄站姿重要。

那這示範給一般人看的又如何? 好像也是 hip-width 啊?

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As a beginner, I think the key is versatile!

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所以以不同角度會有不同效果, 我不會看 mogul skiing, 就以平地計, 他一定 fail pmts way. 他有很普遍的 wedge + non-release. 在冰面是爪不住雪的.

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這也叫 versatililty. 在 pmts 也被評得一文不值. 他的是什麼站資? 他也會滑雪吧?
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ams 寫:...他一定 fail pmts way. 他有很普遍的 wedge + non-release...

What is PMTS? I'm not familiar with this standard or method? You may share your experience to me if you don't mind.

I see the movements are called wedge. BTW, I have also found it in this video. So, I totally agree with you wedge is very common.

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ams 寫:...這也叫 versatililty. 在 pmts 也被評得一文不值. 他的是什麼站資? 他也會滑雪吧?...

I don't know what criteria are adopted for the evaluation by PMTS. Do you know that? If so, please give us for further discussion. To be honest, I would prefer to his style than yours. BTW, who is the skier in the second video?

here is the wealth of material you could find of pmts, i m just an intermediate pmts student, so my points r probably worthless: pmts.org
actually u just posted a video of the founder of pmts.

it would be a interesting to see if u could catch consecutive and serious wedge turns by Harald Harb like I did for the versatility turns you posted.

what second video?

I believe I never said my skiing is good, so comparing my turns to those experts or professionals is pointless unless u want to stress that my skiing is bad.

ams 寫:那這示範給一般人看的又如何? 好像也是 hip-width 啊?

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hip-width只是站起來比較舒服而已，窄站姿腳完全併起來站，是比較不舒服的。這點您自己站在原地感受一下哪一種寬度站起來比較舒服囉。

ams 寫:這也叫 versatililty. 在 pmts 也被評得一文不值. 他的是什麼站資? 他也會滑雪吧?
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這個我現在看得出來，知道pmts評擊的理由喔。

簡單講就是轉彎及雪板的壓力不夠力。

Thanks, ams.

I see he is the founder. I think it is a wedge at 1:49. Please correct me if the interpretation is wrong.

This is the second video.
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Sorry that I don't have this intention to 'look down' your skiing. Just guess he (the skier in the second video) is your friend so I did the comparison. I need to learn 10,000 hours (in line with your tone) to meet your current skiing ability honestly

PSBoy 寫:I think it is a wedge at 1:49. Please correct me if the interpretation is wrong.

thanks for the information. Obviously it is a wedge. But its on mogul and i dont know whether it happen from turns to turns. I ll be happy to see if u can find 2 or 3 wedge among his groomed run demos like what I found of the versatility you shown to us.

Dont worry about criticizing my skiing. I care what you said about my skiing or criticism from anyone. That's the way I learn. So, you could be a valuable source of my skiing knowledge too. However like I said, I ll judge whether I take your advise or opinion or not depending on my own evaluation that I will not disclose. In fact I bet you are an expert, maybe Japanese style, haha!, you have a pair of very careful eyes, honestly i went through HH's video briefly and can not find anything i dont like. especially in his mogul skiing, his knee is not put to the stress on hitting every jump like the other people's doing.

It is impossible to wedge in PMS because the way the movement is designed. One is not performing the movement correctly if wedge appears

skier666 寫:It is impossible to wedge in PMS because the way the movement is designed. One is not performing the movement correctly if wedge appears

true, only when the old outside skis(which will keep going its way when not released) is not released that could result in wedge. so, any one know how to release in pmts can ski without wedge unless poorly executed. but in mogul there are small landings in his video, one just can't tell which skis hit the snow first.

Hey, I'm not a checker and just for fun! It is meaningless to find out his wedge but I just proved your point of view (wedge is very common) in the last thread

As a beginner, I used to watch the instructional video clips carefully. At this moment, I really want to get more information about PMTS (that you gave the website address to me) and Trampoline Method (TM) that I have never heard before. Would you also give me a link of the TM?

I don't know how to determine whether the knees are under stress or not. Would you explain a bit?

PSBoy 寫:As a beginner

你有這麼好的眼力, 應該來些大師風範, 在這裡不被認定是大師很難立足呢.

PSBoy 寫:Hey, I'm not a checker and just for fun! It is meaningless to find out his wedge but I just proved your point of view (wedge is very common) in the last thread

As a beginner, I used to watch the instructional video clips carefully. At this moment, I really want to get more information about PMTS (that you gave the website address to me) and Trampoline Method (TM) that I have never heard before. Would you also give me a link of the TM?

I don't know how to determine whether the knees are under stress or not. Would you explain a bit?

It is just a friendly exchange. We are not defending anyone and I don’t think you are attacking anyone either.

ams 寫:你有這麼好的眼力, 應該來些大師風範...

My eyes are so weak and just watch the video clip patiently. I'm sure you can also see the wedge if you want to do. The designation, Master, is quite far away. I don't mind to call you all Master indeed.

skier666 寫:It is just a friendly exchange. We are not defending anyone and I don’t think you are attacking anyone either.

Sure, we are no intention to attack each other. Just come here for fun Maybe we focus on my previous 2 questions

PSBoy 寫:My eyes are so weak and just watch the video clip patiently. I'm sure you can also see the wedge if you want to do. The designation, Master, is quite far away. I don't mind to call you all Master indeed.

我被認定是 intermediate 那有這資格認大師呢 我只是有時間又喜歡玩所以才什麼都學一下而已, 你要叫我做大師的話這網上是沒有你辨法的只好被當作小醜好了 我真的很認為你眼力過人的 , 你能在這麼短的時間內找到 Harald Harb 的 wedge 相信連大師也未能做得到. (大師, 對不起, 我只是說你沒時間).

ams 寫:我被認定是 intermediate 那有這資格認大師呢...

I think it is better if the words 'as a beginner' are replaced by 'as a student'. So, please don't discuss this again, ok?

PSBoy 寫:...Trampoline Method (TM) that I have never heard before. Would you also give me a link of the TM?

I don't know how to determine whether the knees are under stress or not. Would you explain a bit?

Would you give me some hints?