YouTube- Ski Visualization_Short Turns_小轉剖析

從示範片抄下來的: ()內的時我懷疑所談到的時間點. 有錯請隨便修改

Stance and Balance:
- centered
- mobile
- pole plant stabilizes skier and initiate turn

Turning with the Lower Body (looks like at turn initiation)
- upper body still
- legs turn
- edge of outside skis grips snow early in turn

Balancing on edges ( at apex)
- skier balances against edge of outside ski
- legs continue to turn resulting in increased edge pressure
- upper body is redirected

pressure control ( on turn exit)
- skier resists pressure
- skis bend
- skier will soon be deflected laterally

timing and coordination (around neutral)
- as skier is deflected laterally, he plants pole, turns legs and begins new turn

粗略翻譯如下:
站姿和平衡
- 保持中心化
- 活動的 (=動態嗎?)
- 點杖以維持平衡和開彎

用下半身轉彎
- 上身保持不動
- 用腳轉彎 (可能是說兩大腿骨齊轉, 如 pivot slip 的技術一樣?)
- 外板盡早咬雪 (大師說的 early edge 技術?)

保持平衡在板邊
- 將身體平衡在外板的板邊上
- 雙腿繼續向彎轉
- 任由上身被帶入彎

壓力控制
- 抵制壓力 (以重心還是什麼?)
- 屈板
- 跟隨板邊出彎

時間點和各方面的協調
- 當身體被帶出彎時, 開始點杖, 轉動雙腿以開新的彎

ams 寫:YouTube- Ski Visualization_Short Turns_小轉剖析
從示範片抄下來的: ()內的時我懷疑所談到的時間點. 有錯請隨便修改

Stance and Balance:
- centered
- mobile
- pole plant stabilizes skier and initiate turn

Turning with the Lower Body (looks like at turn initiation)
- upper body still
- legs turn
- edge of outside skis grips snow early in turn

Balancing on edges ( at apex)
- skier balances against edge of outside ski
- legs continue to turn resulting in increased edge pressure
- upper body is redirected

pressure control ( on turn exit)
- skier resists pressure
- skis bend
- skier will soon be deflected laterally

timing and coordination (around neutral)
- as skier is deflected laterally, he plants pole, turns legs and begins new turn

I think that it is better to use turn phases to describe. BTW, in CSIA short turn, the turn phases are slightly different timing to Mid or Big turn.Therefore, your timing should be modified in some cases.

Vicente 寫:I think that it is better to use turn phases to describe. BTW, in CSIA short turn, the turn phases are slightly different timing to Mid or Big turn.Therefore, your timing should be modified in some cases.

Please feel free to modify what I pick up from the video. What is turn phases in CSIA

ams 寫: - 活動的 (=動態嗎?)
- 用腳轉彎 (可能是說兩大腿骨齊轉, 如 pivot slip 的技術一樣?)
- 外板盡早咬雪 (大師說的 early edge 技術?)
- 抵制壓力 (以重心還是什麼?)

僅個人看法，對不對就另議囉。

是。

是。

是。

持續加壓，也可以說保持跟離心力的平衡壓力。

I have this DVD but just think it's for CSIA promotion instead of ski instruction.

PSBoy 寫:I have this DVD but just think it's for CSIA promotion instead of ski instruction.

oh! I just take whatever is available, especially when it mean to be a standard. :)

ams 寫:oh! I just take whatever is available, especially when it mean to be a standard. :)

Sure, you're right but just emphasized in my last post that they only list out the requirements (i.e. you said - standard) but don't explain how to do.

BTW, I think that video is illegally uploaded to Youtube.com.

PSBoy 寫:Sure, you're right but just emphasized in my last post that they only list out the requirements (i.e. you said - standard) but don't explain how to do.

BTW, I think that video is illegally uploaded to Youtube.com.

i think u r right. only myself take it as standard. it doesnt say in the vid its a standard.

ams 寫:i think u r right. only myself take it as standard. it doesnt say in the vid its a standard.

Anyway, that video is very good for the accredited instructors because they can make use of the video to explain the techniques (with their own experience and interpretation) in the class room. Maybe it's called teaching flexibility.

PSBoy 寫:Anyway, that video is very good for the accredited instructors because they can make use of the video to explain the techniques (with their own experience and interpretation) in the class room. Maybe it's called teaching flexibility.

i insist that its the best i can find for practicing csia turns with my very limited resources. well, u know i dont have the DVD

ams 寫:i insist that its the best i can find for practicing csia turns with my very limited resources. well, u know i dont have the DVD

I see. FYI, the series of Personal Performance Tips by Rob Butler may be a good source to understand CSIA technique.

PSBoy 寫:I see. FYI, the series of Personal Performance Tips by Rob Butler may be a good source to understand CSIA technique.

perhaps another advantage of the 短片 is its 短. I have Harald's new set of DVD yet never able to completely finish the viewing with reasonable concentration, same as Rick's DVD, less to say lengthy material from other school.

ams 寫:perhaps another advantage of the 短片 is its 短. I have Harald's new set of DVD yet never able to completely finish the viewing with reasonable concentration, same as Rick's DVD, less to say lengthy material from other school.

There is a trick. A DVD (long) is made up by chapters (短). You can view one chapter at a time. You can even define your own chapter to make it even shorter

skier666 寫:There is a trick. A DVD (long) is made up by chapters (短). You can view one chapter at a time. You can even define your own chapter to make it even shorter

Thanks for the trick. I think this is a very good tactic. Actually doing this is quite resembling learning from an instructor. They just won't teach you everything in one go.

Honously my learning had been directed by my internet coaches so it might be one of the reason why i dont quite follow the books. they ask me to this or that, then i came back with a vid performing the required movements and then post my videos to get another feedback. this cycle lasted for like 3 years. Therefore reading books becaming not part of my learning method. Of course its a very good move to read books.

ams 寫:perhaps another advantage of the 短片 is its 短...

I see but don't care whether the video is long or short. I would focus on the contents instead

PSBoy 寫:I see but don't care whether the video is long or short. I would focus on the contents instead

所以你應該快有大成了，　甚至已經有了大成．　:face (334):

ams 寫:...they ask me to this or that, then i came back with a vid performing the required movements and then post my videos to get another feedback...

It's good approach to lead by a coach. For me, I used to read the ski materials before lesson and discuss with the coach which techniques I want to learn

ams 寫:所以你應該快有大成了，　甚至已經有了大成．　:face (334):

I think in this forum only one person has the ability to determine who could achieve 大成. Are you the man?

PSBoy 寫:I think in this forum only one person has the ability to determine who could achieve 大成. Are you the man?

我最近已開始行樓梯，　希望能快一點進步，　我就就打賭你看書快還是行樓梯快有大成
eh... 不是跟我賭，　是跟 beg 兄，　他才是大師的入室大弟子．　

ams 寫:我最近已開始行樓梯...　

I see you're studying the method, congratulations!

You're already 大成 and now are learning other methods. Do you want to take over this forum? haha