Watch the video and see how the over-rotating cause imbalance of taichiskiing and comapare his skiing with those high end skier you like. If you find anything similar capture the picture and show to us.
ps. 大家應該要體諒一下太極兄，對一個有長短腳的問題又要拿拐杖，還能併腳到這程度，真的不容易耶。如果以上分析有錯，也別吐我口水，僅提供個人看的角度而已。
It is fine if this is the way you like to ski but don't claim it is better than xSIA or any other system.
There is a lot of mass in upper body. Not only you like to move it up and down but you also like to move it from side to side. You can considered it is high end in your system but this is low end in most other systems.
You can achieve the same by not rotating your upper body that way. When you are able to keep you upper body stable and independent of lower body. There is tension/energy or torque stored when your lower body turns relative to the upper body. The lower body will spring back to align with upper body when the energy is released. This is more efficient and fast because it move much smaller mass. This is called 康特兒. If you are really good, you can have the lower body spring left and right with less effort. The key is the ability to hold and release this force at will. It is efficient but difficult to do. That is why high end skiing uses this technique. Over rotation is an easy technique and is considered a beginner technique because it is the default movement for a beginner and it is very easy to do.
So what confuse us is that you keep on boasting how great your method is but all you are practicing is the gross movements. None of you role models do it your way. They all do it the way I described
#6 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 1:24 am
由 pku
skier888 寫:It is fine if this is the way you like to ski but don't claim it is better than xSIA or any other system.
There is a lot of mass in upper body. Not only you like to move it up and down but you also like to move it from side to side. You can considered it is high end in your system but this is low end in most other systems.
You can achieve the same by not rotating your upper body that way. When you are able to keep you upper body stable and independent of lower body. There is tension/energy or torque stored when your lower body turns relative to the upper body. The lower body will spring back to align with upper body when the energy is released. This is more efficient and fast because it move much smaller mass. This is called 康特兒. If you are really good, you can have the lower body spring left and right with less effort. The key is the ability to hold and release this force at will. It is efficient but difficult to do. That is why high end skiing uses this technique. Over rotation is an easy technique and is considered a beginner technique because it is the default movement for a beginner and it is very easy to do.
So what confuse us is that you keep on boasting how great your method is but all you are practicing is the gross movements. None of you role models do it your way. They all do it the way I described
Really! I am surprised! In our knowledge domain, there is no such term "counter_turn", but there is "counter-rotation". OK, now I know that you have collected something. Good!
I am wondering who the author of that book is? What is that book title?
#13 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 10:06 pm
由 skier888
snowrider 寫:Really! I am surprised! In our knowledge domain, there is no such term "counter_turn", but there is "counter-rotation". OK, now I know that you have collected something. Good!
I am wondering who the author of that book is? What is that book title?
It is a mougul technique for speed control. This is a very specific way to ski. Every time counter is mentioned, he think this. He understands it partially and is confused.
That is norman's bible. Counter in this context refers to the skis turning up hill what is opposite to where the skis should turn (downhiil) next.
#16 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 11:06 pm
由 snowrider
skier888 寫:That is norman's bible. Counter in this context refers to the skis turning up hill what is opposite to where the skis should turn (downhiil) next.
I'll need to take time to take a look this book. It seems to me that this book might be out dated.
#17 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 3:27 am
由 snowrider
Page 10 ("Choosing your equipment"):
If I follow his "Ski length calculator", I would need the skis for at least 185 cm.
(Note that I am currently using 170 cm and 158 cm skis.)
The information in this book is way out-dated!
#18 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 3:35 am
由 snowrider
Page 12, it recommends to wear "thick cotton, silk or woollen socks".
This book is full of fallacy! Cotton is very bad for sports, for it will retain the wet and moisture.
#19 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 3:51 am
由 snowrider
skier888 寫:It is a mougul technique for speed control. This is a very specific way to ski. Every time counter is mentioned, he think this. He understands it partially and is confused.
OK. I have this enough after skimming throught the book! Now I totally understand what's going on 若置 thinks.
In our context, when we say counter, we mean counter stance, counter rotation, or counter rotary movement etc.
His "counter_turn" is actually nothing but keeping turning back to uphill.
佩服 佩服 his imagination!
#20 回覆: Over Rotating
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 3:58 am
由 snowrider
skier888 寫:It is a mougul technique for speed control. This is a very specific way to ski. Every time counter is mentioned, he think this. He understands it partially and is confused.
I do see that that book talks about using "counter_turn" on mogul, which is a big fallacy!
Actually, IMO, that counter_turn will be useless for skiing mogul. I don't know how good the book author is. Or may he did not reveal the real secret.
The key skills for skiing mogul are flexsion and extension.
