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#1 Turn Skiing and Line Skiing

文章 pku » 週四 4月 14, 2011 12:06 am

As we all start skiing by learning how to turn. So turn skiing is quite simple to understand.

Then what is line Skiing?

My kids got into the entry level of Alpine Racing and starting hearing about line more than 10 years ago. Then I got into the CSCF level 1 course and got a little bit idea about the line.

So want to get you guys opinion about line skiing

I really requested the Admin will remove all the bad mouth reply for the thread especailly from Taichiskiing since any people say his skiing is not good or high end , he'll reply with with bad mouth.
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#2 回覆: Turn Skiing and Line Skiing

文章 lelo » 週四 4月 14, 2011 8:31 pm

代 norman 貼文

以前談過相關問題,可連到下列網頁看一下,如任何人有新解請再提出。

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=332

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文章 Observer » 週四 4月 14, 2011 9:56 pm

'Turn skiing' and 'line skiing' :face (353):

In skiing one needs to turn, and in racing, the Line (taken) is the upmost importance in getting the best time.

Is someone here coining a NEW term of "Turn skiing' and 'line skiing' ? Perhaps someone can enlighten me on that.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 4月 14, 2011 11:22 pm

pku 寫:As we all start skiing by learning how to turn. So turn skiing is quite simple to understand.

Then what is line Skiing?

My kids got into the entry level of Alpine Racing and starting hearing about line more than 10 years ago. Then I got into the CSCF level 1 course and got a little bit idea about the line.

So want to get you guys opinion about line skiing

I really requested the Admin will remove all the bad mouth reply for the thread especailly from Taichiskiing since any people say his skiing is not good or high end , he'll reply with with bad mouth.
No, I didn't bad-mouth you Whistler Group, the records on this board have shown you do have, in comparison, an inferior skiing techniques, little skiing knowledge, and lack of professionalism, as well as lack of professional courtesy. And you don't see that beg is still crawing around pretending that he is not a human? You don't want people to bad-mouth your bad behaviors, don't do it. And you do need to beef up skiing knowledge and experience, if you wish to improve, "CSCF level 1 course" won't cut it.

Ok, I'll give you Whistler Group another chance, no bad-mouth, see how far you group could hold on your "bad" breath; you start the thread, let's hear it, what you know about your "a little bit idea about the line"?

:)
IS

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文章 pku » 週五 4月 15, 2011 12:09 am

taichiskiing 寫:No, I didn't bad-mouth you Whistler Group, the records on this board have shown you do have, in comparison, an inferior skiing techniques, little skiing knowledge, and lack of professionalism, as well as lack of professional courtesy. And you don't see that beg is still crawing around pretending that he is not a human? You don't want people to bad-mouth your bad behaviors, don't do it. And you do need to beef up skiing knowledge and experience, if you wish to improve, "CSCF level 1 course" won't cut it.

Ok, I'll give you Whistler Group another chance, no bad-mouth, see how far you group could hold on your "bad" breath; you start the thread, let's hear it, what you know about your "a little bit idea about the line"?

:)
IS
We are talking about skiing technique, not the personality, that's your like to step others. There are so many people in this forum you've already bad mouth to ,

All our technical stuff will move to our new area and if you keep bad mouth again and again, I'll requested to delet it.

We are talking about the terms you always said " turn skiing and line skiing " You are welcome to give your own opinion but no other BS.

CSCF L1 is a very low certification, nothing to be proud of. Just you don't do any reserch before you comment. As you know how to use the net, you should do some reserch before you comment and don't say something that is too outdated.

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#6 回覆: Turn Skiing and Line Skiing

文章 beg » 週五 4月 15, 2011 12:56 am

taichiskiing 寫:No, I didn't bad-mouth you Whistler Group, the records on this board have shown you do have, in comparison, an inferior skiing techniques, little skiing knowledge, and lack of professionalism, as well as lack of professional courtesy. And you don't see that beg is still crawing around pretending that he is not a human? You don't want people to bad-mouth your bad behaviors, don't do it. And you do need to beef up skiing knowledge and experience, if you wish to improve, "CSCF level 1 course" won't cut it.

Ok, I'll give you Whistler Group another chance, no bad-mouth, see how far you group could hold on your "bad" breath; you start the thread, let's hear it, what you know about your "a little bit idea about the line"?

:)
IS
Your bad mouth is famous and world wide, that's why you got kick out of the others forum.As a Taichi monkey, you will never unferstand what is human being but I'll still give you another chance. See how far a monkey could hold on bad mouth. So let's hear it, What is your big idea of "雪杖朝天”?

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文章 pku » 週五 4月 15, 2011 4:29 am

beg 寫:Your bad mouth is famous and world wide, that's why you got kick out of the others forum.As a Taichi monkey, you will never unferstand what is human being but I'll still give you another chance. See how far a monkey could hold on bad mouth. So let's hear it, What is your big idea of "雪杖朝天”?
try to post on the topic.

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#8 回覆: Turn Skiing and Line Skiing

文章 pku » 週五 4月 15, 2011 6:07 am

For myself, skiing is all about turning. One needs to make good turns in order to control and ski well.

If one can't make turns, no matter what line he see, it's difficult for him to ski on the lines he want.

Even for alpine racing, one needs to pratice a lot of turning. They pratice more turning then running the gates.

Once I can control my turns, then I choose the line I want to ski especially on bumps since I don't do any ski racing.

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文章 Observer » 週五 4月 15, 2011 7:58 am

There is no such thing as Turn Skiing or Line Skiing then.

So, we should not be calling it as such.

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文章 pku » 週五 4月 15, 2011 8:21 am

Observer 寫:There is no such thing as Turn Skiing or Line Skiing then.

So, we should not be calling it as such.
But somebody like using this 2 terms. I also agree with you.

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文章 beg » 週五 4月 15, 2011 8:47 am

Observer 寫:There is no such thing as Turn Skiing or Line Skiing then.

So, we should not be calling it as such.
I believe these terms is from taichi, when we showing some professional short turn video, taichi always compare with his effortless straight down skiing on a gentle slope and said short turn is too much effort compare to his line skiing. When we show a speed racing downhill video, he said that's lost control skiing compare to his controlled turn skiing(transverse) video.
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文章 pku » 週五 4月 15, 2011 9:05 am

beg 寫:I believe these terms is from taichi, when we showing some professional short turn video, taichi always compare with his effortless straight down skiing on a gentle slope and said short turn is too much effort compare to his line skiing. When we show a speed racing downhill video, he said that's lost control skiing compare to his controlled turn skiing(transverse) video.
I can't understand his so call dynamic short turns and His cattrack run is "precision" line-skiing

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: dynamic short turns on cat-tracks


For what we learn, quiet upper body is what we want to achieve

YouTube - Short Turns and Quiet Upper Body Illusion


and the following one is even better

YouTube - Classic Short Radius Turns


May be somebody other than himself can explain to us

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 15, 2011 9:41 am

pku 寫:We are talking about skiing technique, not the personality, that's your like to step others. There are so many people in this forum you've already bad mouth to ,
We were talking about skiing techniques, not personality, until you Whistler Group came in; you Whistler Group desires what is being described.
All our technical stuff will move to our new area and if you keep bad mouth again and again, I'll requested to delet it.
That I'd like to see, if beg or you can hold your breath that long. Note to Admin, why their new discussing area has such rules, and why not apply the same rules to the whole forum?
We are talking about the terms you always said " turn skiing and line skiing " You are welcome to give your own opinion but no other BS.
I think norman already did,

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1
CSCF L1 is a very low certification, nothing to be proud of. Just you don't do any reserch before you comment. As you know how to use the net, you should do some reserch before you comment and don't say something that is too outdated.
Actually, you've argued too strong for a L1, yet, you have denied that you're a L3; either way you have boasted your skiing techniques/knowledge beyond your abilities. Actually, "line-skiing" is a technique of "downhill racing"; the difference is that in "downhill racing" the line is given, and in all-mountain skiing, the skier must choose one's own line, which may require the knowledge of "mountains"/environments, weather, temperature, snow contents, and etc. So, comparing to line-skiing, it is turn-skiing that is outdated. And the solid Line-skiing techniques is essential for a good tree skiing,

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: powder skiing trees, Dipper line, Heavenly



:)
IS

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 15, 2011 9:47 am

Observer 寫:There is no such thing as Turn Skiing or Line Skiing then.

So, we should not be calling it as such.
Don't speak too soon; actually, it is you who is behind curve,

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=14

:)
IS

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文章 skier888 » 週五 4月 15, 2011 11:10 am

This guy's line skiing rips and he is fast :face (330):

YouTube - Max cruising at Sugarbush, VT

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文章 Observer » 週五 4月 15, 2011 12:06 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Don't speak too soon; actually, it is you who is behind curve,


:)
IS
If the world Skiing body has such terms that is fine, but from you? :face (50):

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文章 Observer » 週五 4月 15, 2011 12:10 pm

skier888 寫:This guy's line skiing rips and he is fast :face (330):
The video does not call it 'line skiing', and we should not use the term if it is only 'coined' by Taichiskiing

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#18 回覆: Turn Skiing and Line Skiing

文章 beg » 週五 4月 15, 2011 12:31 pm

taichiskiing 寫:We were talking about skiing techniques, not personality, until you Whistler Group came in; you Whistler Group desires what is being described. :)
IS
Think back why you got kick out of others forum than you know what you are talking.


taichiskiing 寫:That I'd like to see, if beg or you can hold your breath that long. Note to Admin, why their new discussing area has such rules, and why not apply the same rules to the whole forum? :)
IS
Human don't hold breathing, we breath in and out.The new rule is tailor made for you .


taichiskiing 寫:I think norman already did, :)
IS
Are you saying you learn this from Norman?

http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... ostcount=1


taichiskiing 寫:Actually, you've argued too strong for a L1, yet, you have denied that you're a L3; either way you have boasted your skiing techniques/knowledge beyond your abilities. Actually, "line-skiing" is a technique of "downhill racing"; the difference is that in "downhill racing" the line is given, and in all-mountain skiing, the skier must choose one's own line, which may require the knowledge of "mountains"/environments, weather, temperature, snow contents, and etc. So, comparing to line-skiing, it is turn-skiing that is outdated. And the solid Line-skiing techniques is essential for a good tree skiing,

YouTube - Flatboarding/Line-skiing: powder skiing trees, Dipper line, Heavenly


:)
IS
PKU does not deny, his title is CSIA L2 althought he might sking better than some L3. If you don't know what is CSIA L2,simply click their website, then you won't make a lousy joke again such as PSIA L4.
In "downhill racing" the line is given but doesn't mean anyone can follow the line. It require stong balance and control with speed.We don't see you have any of this techniques on you in your all different video. You always doing park & ride.

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 15, 2011 9:01 pm

Observer 寫:If the world Skiing body has such terms that is fine, but from you? :face (50):

Yup, I did say you little knowledge cannot handle the discussing. Yes, the term is defined, executed, so it is exist, and valid, if you know what a proof means.

:)
IS

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文章 taichiskiing » 週五 4月 15, 2011 9:08 pm

Observer 寫:The video does not call it 'line skiing', and we should not use the term if it is only 'coined' by Taichiskiing

Still trying to hold on you little knowledge's status quo, eh? Can't learn, can't progress, it sounds like a terminal intermediate, going no where.

:)
IS

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