How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

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taichiskiing
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#1 How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 taichiskiing » 週四 1月 12, 2012 1:09 pm

Given that most the demo clips on skiing techniques are given on "good" snow conditions, which makes "How to ski a bumpy and icy trail" the most overlooked and least talked about subjects among the 'net ski forums' discussions. I think it deserves a thread on its own.

I would have never figured that we would be into this record snow drought conditions; we are setting on record daytime high temperature zone. Nevertheless, for lacking natural snow, Heavenly does an excellent job to groom the trails and keep the area open.

Since the trails are groomed every night, trail skiing is quite decent in the morning; however, the grooms only last about half an hour and the smoothness of trails lasts for another hour; by the time noon comes around, the grooms are all gone but icy patches and the loose snow along the edges and the bottom icy patches, which make very inconsistent surface to ski on. Most of falls accur on losing control on the icy patches and crashing into the loose snow bumps. Local hospital reported 50+ a day brought in to emergency room on a busy day, they sure make good business. So, how do we ski the "bumpy and icy trails" without crashing all over the places? Pku has a good idea, stay on the bumps and let the loose snow to kill your speed. Yes, that's how I find my "bumps" and "powder" nowadays.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: icy and bumpy trail, Stagecoach, Heavenly - YouTube



Have fun and be safe, :)
IS



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#2 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 beg » 週四 1月 12, 2012 5:12 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Given that most the demo clips on skiing techniques are given on "good" snow conditions, which makes "How to ski a bumpy and icy trail" the most overlooked and least talked about subjects among the 'net ski forums' discussions. I think it deserves a thread on its own.

I would have never figured that we would be into this record snow drought conditions; we are setting on record daytime high temperature zone. Nevertheless, for lacking natural snow, Heavenly does an excellent job to groom the trails and keep the area open.

Since the trails are groomed every night, trail skiing is quite decent in the morning; however, the grooms only last about half an hour and the smoothness of trails lasts for another hour; by the time noon comes around, the grooms are all gone but icy patches and the loose snow along the edges and the bottom icy patches, which make very inconsistent surface to ski on. Most of falls accur on losing control on the icy patches and crashing into the loose snow bumps. Local hospital reported 50+ a day brought in to emergency room on a busy day, they sure make good business. So, how do we ski the "bumpy and icy trails" without crashing all over the places? Pku has a good idea, stay on the bumps and let the loose snow to kill your speed. Yes, that's how I find my "bumps" and "powder" nowadays.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: icy and bumpy trail, Stagecoach, Heavenly - YouTube


Have fun and be safe, :)
IS
Your low end sking style is never bend and extend your feet. It made your feet usually under your centre of gravity so it's good for icy condition. The condition in your video may be hard pacthes but not icy. It doesn't look bumpy.
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lelo
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#3 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 lelo » 週五 1月 13, 2012 10:18 am

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我沒有fun,其實在我看到這段影片時,我看到左邊有往下滑的路,為什麼你不滑一滑就直接往左邊衝下去,我本來很期待你突然往左邊滑下去的說,這樣看起來會有fun多了。

要是最近還有要拍,就來一段吧,會比較有樂趣一點,不然感覺你好像怕突然往左下滑下去的感覺。

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#4 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 pku » 週五 1月 13, 2012 12:50 pm

taichiskiing 寫:Given that most the demo clips on skiing techniques are given on "good" snow conditions, which makes "How to ski a bumpy and icy trail" the most overlooked and least talked about subjects among the 'net ski forums' discussions. I think it deserves a thread on its own.

I would have never figured that we would be into this record snow drought conditions; we are setting on record daytime high temperature zone. Nevertheless, for lacking natural snow, Heavenly does an excellent job to groom the trails and keep the area open.

Since the trails are groomed every night, trail skiing is quite decent in the morning; however, the grooms only last about half an hour and the smoothness of trails lasts for another hour; by the time noon comes around, the grooms are all gone but icy patches and the loose snow along the edges and the bottom icy patches, which make very inconsistent surface to ski on. Most of falls accur on losing control on the icy patches and crashing into the loose snow bumps. Local hospital reported 50+ a day brought in to emergency room on a busy day, they sure make good business. So, how do we ski the "bumpy and icy trails" without crashing all over the places? Pku has a good idea, stay on the bumps and let the loose snow to kill your speed. Yes, that's how I find my "bumps" and "powder" nowadays.

Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: icy and bumpy trail, Stagecoach, Heavenly - YouTube


Have fun and be safe, :)
IS
Thsi kind of condition happen a lot on the local mountains of Vancouver where I worked full time for 2 seasons more than 10 years ago. Those loose snow bump tends to separate the skis apart and the icy spot is slippery like hell. I couldn't handle it at all. Of course I can ski down but kind of everywhere.

I didn't ski much there any more and Whisler got that kind of condition sometimes around April on the bottom part. Since the bottom part is not steep so I can handle much better now.

When the snow come on Heavenly?

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文章 pku » 週五 1月 13, 2012 1:12 pm

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我沒有fun,其實在我看到這段影片時,我看到左邊有往下滑的路,為什麼你不滑一滑就直接往左邊衝下去,我本來很期待你突然往左邊滑下去的說,這樣看起來會有fun多了。

要是最近還有要拍,就來一段吧,會比較有樂趣一點,不然感覺你好像怕突然往左下滑下去的感覺。
所以說你冇經驗,這麼差的雪況,左邊的雪道可能都是石頭,

不要自己不做,只叫人做,

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#6 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 beg » 週五 1月 13, 2012 3:11 pm


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#7 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 taichiskiing » 週六 1月 14, 2012 2:14 am

pku 寫:Thsi kind of condition happen a lot on the local mountains of Vancouver where I worked full time for 2 seasons more than 10 years ago. Those loose snow bump tends to separate the skis apart and the icy spot is slippery like hell. I couldn't handle it at all. Of course I can ski down but kind of everywhere.

I didn't ski much there any more and Whisler got that kind of condition sometimes around April on the bottom part. Since the bottom part is not steep so I can handle much better now.
Yup, icy and bumpy are typical spring skiing conditions until they turn to slushes. Interesting thing here is we have a spring skiing condition in a pre-winter setting; i.e. warm during the days and cold at the nights, and the temperature drops significantly in the shadows so the snow doesn't have much chance to turn into slushes, remains hard and icy all afternoons. I sideslipping on ice patches and change to dynamic short turns to ski the loose snow, stay on it (don't turn off out of the loose snow) like you would ski a straight mogul line. It is quite do-able and its fun.
When the snow come on Heavenly?
Forcasted for midweek next week, but probably comes later in the next weekends. Anyhow, I think the snow will come before the end of this month, just hope that "extreme drought brings in the extreme wet/dump," and hopely, it is "snow," not rain! Stay tuned.

Best luck for all of us, :)
IS

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#8 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 pku » 週六 1月 14, 2012 2:29 pm

Key: Be able to relax,

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#9 回覆: How to ski a bumpy and icy trail?

文章 lelo » 週日 1月 15, 2012 7:58 am

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pku 寫:所以說你冇經驗,這麼差的雪況,左邊的雪道可能都是石頭,

不要自己不做,只叫人做,
又不一定要選有石頭的時候,挑雪況好時再滑也行呀,這段只是讓我想到我以前滑類似滑道左方或右方有路可下時,我有時會下一下,但如果有機會拍片又遇到相同地形,雪況允許之下的話,我是蠻想來拍一段的。

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