什麼是 High C？

[taichiskiing]

別急著下定論。

這也不是一個急的定論，你能做的，影片都表現在這裡好久了，或是你還藏了什麼“救命”絕招我們沒見過？

滑得比我多很多天及很多年，動作也很流暢，速度也很快，但是動作的正確性卻很低，算不算比動作正確，但不夠流暢的厲害？

用天數壓人的比比皆是，這是我沒辦法比的地方囉。

要比就跟高手比，比低手就是贏了又有什麼好得意的？沒人跟你在比天數(你是沒的比的)，你只是在找借口逃避現實而己。

:)
IS

[pku]

別急著下定論。

滑得比我多很多天及很多年，動作也很流暢，速度也很快，但是動作的正確性卻很低，算不算比動作正確，但不夠流暢的厲害？

用天數壓人的比比皆是，這是我沒辦法比的地方囉。

HOW ABOUT THESE PHOTOS, they're taken on a Black diamond steep run on the top of Whistler, may not be perfect but not bad compare to yours. Yours is taken on a groomed run on easy snow condition only.

Why other people can ski faster and smoother than you but 動作的正確性卻很低, it's because your 動作的正確性 is also 很低, your 動作 only
look right in a split secod.

[norman]

HOW ABOUT THESE PHOTOS, they're taken on a Black diamond steep run on the top of Whistler, may not be perfect but not bad compare to yours. Yours is taken on a groomed run on easy snow condition only.

Why other people can ski faster and smoother than you but 動作的正確性卻很低, it's because your 動作的正確性 is also 很低, your 動作 only
look right in a split secod.

不，我提過，我的動作還不夠正確。

[norman]

即然有天數可比對，同樣我就覺得我沒人教都可以滑得應該不比他壞吧？這個還是幾乎天天滑天天上課。

所以我也不算自欺欺人，等我動作都矯正完時，就差很多，還有，skier666不是覺得我的影片有時有一些是流暢，有一些是像石雕，這是因為我要讓拍影片的有效利用達到最大，所以我的每一段影片都是刻意及嚐試某些動作的實驗性，在還沒大成，我的影片一直都是如此的，只有實際一起滑就知我的動作像不像影片中的動作了。

YouTube- Year One - Day Fifty-Four

[pku]

即然有天數可比對，同樣我就覺得我沒人教都可以滑得應該不比他壞吧？這個還是幾乎天天滑天天上課。

所以我也不算自欺欺人，等我動作都矯正完時，就差很多，還有，skier666不是覺得我的影片有時有一些是流暢，有一些是像石雕，這是因為我要讓拍影片的有效利用達到最大，所以我的每一段影片都是刻意及嚐試某些動作的實驗性，在還沒大成，我的影片一直都是如此的，只有實際一起滑就知我的動作像不像影片中的動作了。

YouTube- Year One - Day Fifty-Four

Man, he was skiing pretty fast on a icy race course on a steep run and you were skiing pretty slow on a much gentle slope with the best snow. How can you compare?

Even only snow condition already make a huge difference.

[norman]

Man, he was skiing pretty fast on a icy race course on a steep run and you were skiing pretty slow on a much gentle slope with the best snow. How can you compare?

Even only snow condition already make a huge difference.

裏面有兩個人，我說的是綠白色那位(這一個就是2年內考上psia L3的教練)。您說的是這一位嗎？他的動作問題還很大耶，離漂亮還差蠻遠的。:20070217220246:

但這些都是同樣紅線吧？只是雪質跟雪況實在很難講，但我講的是滑雪天數的累積問題，只是我贏他在年份比較多，滑雪天數無法這麼集中而已。

所以這樣比起來，對我來說才是不公平的囉。

[pku]

裏面有兩個人，我說的是綠白色那位(這一個就是2年內考上psia L3的教練)。您說的是這一位嗎？他的動作問題還很大耶，離漂亮還差蠻遠的。:20070217220246:

但這些都是同樣紅線吧？只是雪質跟雪況實在很難講，但我講的是滑雪天數的累積問題，只是我贏他在年份比較多，滑雪天數無法這麼集中而已。

所以這樣比起來，對我來說才是不公平的囉。

First of all, it's you like to compare yourself with him.so you can't say "對我來說才是不公平的囉"

Second, skiing on a race course is totally different from free skiing, Free skiing, you can turn whereever and whenever you feel comfortable and you can take your time. That guy is still turning pretty close to the gate although he slip quite a bit. You need to know it is very difficult to turn at will on the ice, " That is written on the beginning of the video

In your video, you are free skiing on easy snow on Rusutsu, which is famous for easy run and good snow. You only skis few turns and also ski very slow.

You are such an inexperience skier and you haven't encounter much terrain and snow condition and only like to criticize other people and pretend you know almost everything. Without enough mileage, you never know what skiing. Doing skiing drill at home and on snow is completely different. If one is skiing 50Km/hr on snow, the force he needs to resist is huge.

Remember what you said about our little girl friend :

"動作蠻不錯，不過有點後坐加彎腰駝背。但看起來再難一點的饅頭，要再動作這麼漂亮可能就不行了"

That means you understand the more difficult of the situation, 動作這麼漂亮可能就不行了.

You choose other's video in a tough situation compare with your video in an easy situation.

[norman]

First of all, it's you like to compare yourself with him.so you can't say "對我來說才是不公平的囉"

Second, skiing on a race course is totally different from free skiing, Free skiing, you can turn whereever and whenever you feel comfortable and you can take your time. That guy is still turning pretty close to the gate although he slip quite a bit. You need to know it is very difficult to turn at will on the ice, " That is written on the beginning of the video

In your video, you are free skiing on easy snow on Rusutsu, which is famous for easy run and good snow. You only skis few turns and also ski very slow.

You are such an inexperience skier and you haven't encounter much terrain and snow condition and only like to criticize other people and pretend you know almost everything. Without enough mileage, you never know what skiing. Doing skiing drill at home and on snow is completely different. If one is skiing 50Km/hr on snow, the force he needs to resist is huge.

Remember what you said about our little girl friend :

"動作蠻不錯，不過有點後坐加彎腰駝背。但看起來再難一點的饅頭，要再動作這麼漂亮可能就不行了"

That means you understand the more difficult of the situation, 動作這麼漂亮可能就不行了.

You choose other's video in a tough situation compare with your video in an easy situation.

如果只是講旗門，在2006年我也有玩過較正式的旗門，我都覺得那時玩的動作也比這個好，但沒影片沒證據，那時認真玩了一次，使出carving後,在第三個彎後，只有一個想法，沒想到在看起來不什麼陡的坡居然可以一路加速到令人心驚......導至我後來再看到旗門時，雪狀要是冰面的話，就不是很想去玩一下，怕不小心意外失控犁田一定很痛......

這影片中的那位還沒達到加速要求呢...

[pku]

如果只是講旗門，在2006年我也有玩過較正式的旗門，我都覺得那時玩的動作也比這個好，但沒影片沒證據，那時認真玩了一次，使出carving後,在第三個彎後，只有一個想法，沒想到在看起來不什麼陡的坡居然可以一路加速到令人心驚......導至我後來再看到旗門時，雪狀要是冰面的話，就不是很想去玩一下，怕不小心意外失控犁田一定很痛......

這影片中的那位還沒達到加速要求呢...

"我都覺得那時玩的動作也比這個好"

That's what you think, you didn't really see yourself. That's the problem of all sports because you can't really see what you are doing. You can only see others doing wrong but once you video yourself, you'll know how bad you are. Just like you in your video. Like a rock, no movement, no rymthm, the purpose is just to have a plit moment look OK and put into your icon.

"沒想到在看起來不什麼陡的坡居然可以一路加速到令人心驚......導至我後來再看到旗門時，雪狀要是冰面的話，就不是很想去玩一下，怕不小心意外失控犁田一定很痛......"

That's the hard part of running gate. Even a gentle slope you can feel the 加速 . It's because you can take your time to turn when you free ski but once the gate force you to turn, you may not be ready.

You just like to overestimate yourself too much and step down other people too much.

[norman]

"我都覺得那時玩的動作也比這個好"

That's what you think, you didn't really see yourself. That's the problem of all sports because you can't really see what you are doing. You can only see others doing wrong but once you video yourself, you'll know how bad you are. Just like you in your video. Like a rock, no movement, no rymthm, the purpose is just to have a plit moment look OK and put into your icon.

"沒想到在看起來不什麼陡的坡居然可以一路加速到令人心驚......導至我後來再看到旗門時，雪狀要是冰面的話，就不是很想去玩一下，怕不小心意外失控犁田一定很痛......"

That's the hard part of running gate. Even a gentle slope you can feel the 加速 . It's because you can take your time to turn when you free ski but once the gate force you to turn, you may not be ready.

You just like to overestimate yourself too much and step down other people too much.

抱歉，我沒有這個意思，雖講出來好像是，但真的沒有這想法，我只是在說動作上的正確性問題而已。

不然看一下他的60天的影片。動作有比54天的正確性還要高一點，但我還是不認為他在這時候的動作正確性比我高。

這並不是比較的意思，僅指在動作上而言。

YouTube- Year One - Day Sixty

[pku]

抱歉，我沒有這個意思，雖講出來好像是，但真的沒有這想法，我只是在說動作上的正確性問題而已。

不然看一下他的60天的影片。動作有比54天的正確性還要高一點，但我還是不認為他在這時候的動作正確性比我高。

這並不是比較的意思，僅指在動作上而言。

YouTube- Year One - Day Sixty

I mention a lost already, different terrain and snow condition makes a big different. Runing gate and freeskiing is also huge different.

His 動作 look much worse on the gates is more because of the difficulty of running gates.

See our leader in the following video, he was struggling so much ( see how he got hit by the bumps ) because the snow was really catchy, rough and bumps were much bigger than the last video where bumps were smaller and snow was much better.

YouTube- Ski on May 2, 2010


If you like to comapare, try to compare the situation more similar

[taichiskiing]

YouTube- Ski on May 2, 2010

Good bumps skiing, except a few of them couldn't finish in "one breath"/一口氣, are you in there?

:)
IS

[pku]

Good bumps skiing, except a few of them couldn't finish in "one breath"/一口氣, are you in there?

:)
IS

If you know Cantonese, try listening to the conversation. There were some guys who skip the run, I was one of them.

[snowrider]

Where did you guys ski in May?

[pku]

Where did you guys ski in May?

On Blackcomb

[norman]

If you know Cantonese, try listening to the conversation. There were some guys who skip the run, I was one of them.

我聽不懂廣東話...可以明指一下嗎？

我覺得四個動作都不錯，最後一個很好玩，但動作也不錯，再多練饅頭會越來越厲害，只是熟練跟不熟練的差別而已，在日本要找到這樣的饅頭地不太容易，我今年去的留壽都沒看到這麼長又寬的饅頭坡，不知白馬有沒有，要碰運氣。

至於我跟您們四位比饅頭，以動作漂亮度，我應該是輪吧，但以下來的速度就不一定是最後一名了。

[taichiskiing]

If you know Cantonese, try listening to the conversation. There were some guys who skip the run, I was one of them.

Well, didn't really follow you guys conversation that closely: one was in denial, and one was showing-off with other people's clips, what's the point? Are you saying that you are a better skier [than norman] because your group leader knows how to ski?

:)
IS

[taichiskiing]

我聽不懂廣東話...可以明指一下嗎？

我也不懂廣東話...

我覺得四個動作都不錯，最後一個很好玩，但動作也不錯，再多練饅頭會越來越厲害，只是熟練跟不熟練的差別而已，在日本要找到這樣的饅頭地不太容易，我今年去的留壽都沒看到這麼長又寬的饅頭坡，不知白馬有沒有，要碰運氣。

至於我跟您們四位比饅頭，以動作漂亮度，我應該是輪吧，但以下來的速度就不一定是最後一名了。

也不曉得學謙虛一點？要是那坡是典型美洲西海岸黑線饅頭坡的話，你能不能一路“滑”下來都是問題，還要跟人家比？真是，槓子頭。

:)
IS

[lelo]

我今年去的留壽都沒看到這麼長又寬的饅頭坡，不知白馬有沒有，要碰運氣。

白馬的八方尾根有，五龍也有，不必碰運氣，不過我從來沒敢上去過！
norman 兄想體驗的話，要報名逛山團，我在白馬碰過的教練都是 csia level 2 的，
其它教練恐怕也不敢帶上去 ...

[pku]

Well, didn't really follow you guys conversation that closely: one was in denial, and one was showing-off with other people's clips, what's the point? Are you saying that you are a better skier [than norman] because your group leader knows how to ski?

:)
IS

I just want ot show that we had a group chinese skier skiing togeter on Whsitlerblackcomb almost every weekend ( Sunday )
Our level of skiing varies, some ski better than Norman and some ski worse but we ski and have fun. Anybody can join us.

By the way, we are planing some ski trip next season and we may visit you.

YouTube- 2010/04/25 (01).MOV


I am the last guy in the video.