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文章 lelo » 週一 5月 09, 2011 8:54 pm

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pku 寫:You need to ask the comments from TCS

with 全身伸展, one will raise the center of mass which is one of the worst thing in bumps or moguls skiing. Right now you are not 全身伸展 but only the upper body. :face (340): :face (340):
就說你看不懂我的動作,你還不信。

光憑你現在講的話就能很確定這個問題了,你不懂我的核心技術如何輕鬆做到伸展及收縮,所以只看到上半身上升,如果用你們的教法系統確實是很費力,動作又很難正確,所以極難練會,兩年後如果我徒弟練到這階段,你可以問問看這動作費不費力,是不是只有單純上半身上升而已,我們是不用腳力的。

至於你說的在饅頭頂後換邊傾腳的動作,你的是比較快,但時機位置不會,那個號稱skipro的時機點還比你好些及正確一點點,你貼上的那L4動作,傾腳在這時機點也沒你快。



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文章 lelo » 週一 5月 09, 2011 8:58 pm

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skier888 寫:你是惡人先告狀 :face (4): 你是唯一不懂的人吧 :face (41): 所以你就說全部人都不懂 :face (334): 你在饅頭頂伸展,這是最費力的 :face (334):

你不要忘了,tdk 說你是進階的初學者。然後你陰文又會錯意,造成你陰錯陽差,亂練
就說你看不懂我的動作,連我講得話都看不懂,我什麼時候說在饅頭頂上做伸展的動作了?是「在過了饅頭頂,開始往下下饅頭時。」我字寫太簡短了,但看影片也看得出我是過了饅頭頂才伸展的,只是時機抓得還不夠準跟穩而已,我還在用腦做動作,還沒達到不用腦就能自然做出來,這總得要時間吧?

進階初學者?還好,現有的實力我也不否認,不過我的核心技術依然可以讓我在下次就算滑三天也能變成進階中級者以上,所以我不擔心這問題,因為動作正確,方法對,是不會有任何瓶頸的。

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文章 skier888 » 週一 5月 09, 2011 10:37 pm

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就說你看不懂我的動作,連我講得話都看不懂,我什麼時候說在饅頭頂上做伸展的動作了?是「在過了饅頭頂,開始往下下饅頭時。」我字寫太簡短了,但看影片也看得出我是過了饅頭頂才伸展的,只是時機抓得還不夠準跟穩而已,我還在用腦做動作,還沒達到不用腦就能自然做出來,這總得要時間吧?

進階初學者?還好,現有的實力我也不否認,不過我的核心技術依然可以讓我在下次就算滑三天也能變成進階中級者以上,所以我不擔心這問題,因為動作正確,方法對,是不會有任何瓶頸的。
:face (50): :face (50): :face (50): 明明可以發言,還老麻煩別人 :face (4): 丟臉在臺灣丟就好了,這種話可千萬不要到epicski 上去說,會被全世界的人笑你 :face (4):

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文章 pku » 週二 5月 10, 2011 1:36 am

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就說你看不懂我的動作,你還不信。

光憑你現在講的話就能很確定這個問題了,你不懂我的核心技術如何輕鬆做到伸展及收縮,所以只看到上半身上升,如果用你們的教法系統確實是很費力,動作又很難正確,所以極難練會,兩年後如果我徒弟練到這階段,你可以問問看這動作費不費力,是不是只有單純上半身上升而已,我們是不用腳力的。

至於你說的在饅頭頂後換邊傾腳的動作,你的是比較快,但時機位置不會,那個號稱skipro的時機點還比你好些及正確一點點,你貼上的那L4動作,傾腳在這時機點也沒你快。
看得非常清楚,你應該做沒有做, 不應該做都做

Then I'll wait for your so call 徒弟 to come to show us how good is your teaching

Those L4 can tip the ski not as early as me is because they ski much faster than me so their timing is off a bit. If I ski as fast as them , my ski tip will also shoot to the ski.

See how Miyashita and the other L4 ski the bump, you may still say they have the core skill like you since it is more and more obvious that you got a mental problem. More and more people come to this conclusion recently.

YouTube - Miyashita Masaki with WBSS


Have a look of your mental problem

Narcissistic personality disorder


[edit] CausesThe cause of this disorder is unknown, according to Groopman and Cooper. However, they list the following factors identified by various researchers as possibilities.[3]

An oversensitive temperament at birth is the main symptomatic chronic form

Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or talents by adults

Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback

Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for poor behaviors in childhood

Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents

Severe emotional abuse in childhood


Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents

Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem
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文章 lelo » 週二 5月 10, 2011 9:09 am

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pku 寫:看得非常清楚,你應該做沒有做, 不應該做都做

Then I'll wait for your so call 徒弟 to come to show us how good is your teaching

Those L4 can tip the ski not as early as me is because they ski much faster than me so their timing is off a bit. If I ski as fast as them , my ski tip will also shoot to the ski.

See how Miyashita and the other L4 ski the bump, you may still say they have the core skill like you since it is more and more obvious that you got a mental problem. More and more people come to this conclusion recently.
你看不懂他們的動作,要是看得懂你就會做了,不過我的核心技術的伸展方法確實跟他們的方法不一樣。

你現在就是滑快也不會像他們的,要是有你就看得懂他們的動作了,我也懶得剪給你看了。

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文章 pku » 週二 5月 10, 2011 12:56 pm

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你看不懂他們的動作,要是看得懂你就會做了,不過我的核心技術的伸展方法確實跟他們的方法不一樣。

你現在就是滑快也不會像他們的,要是有你就看得懂他們的動作了,我也懶得剪給你看了。
Your Narcissistic personality disorder is getting more serious

Time to see a psychiatrist

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文章 lelo » 週二 5月 10, 2011 2:13 pm

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pku 寫:Your Narcissistic personality disorder is getting more serious

Time to see a psychiatrist
先做個過饅頭後的全身伸展拉直的動作來看看,不會做,做不出來就叫人看心理醫生,難怪太極要說你自我劃限不求長進囉。

要是看得懂L4的影片,會做你的進步就很快,而不是卡在這種程度了,在我看來,是你過度自戀囉。

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文章 skier888 » 週二 5月 10, 2011 10:43 pm

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先做個過饅頭後的全身伸展拉直的動作來看看,不會做,做不出來就叫人看心理醫生,難怪太極要說你自我劃限不求長進囉。

要是看得懂L4的影片,會做你的進步就很快,而不是卡在這種程度了,在我看來,是你過度自戀囉。
自戀的是你吧 :face (46): 明明是自己看不懂,卻愛說別人看不懂 :face (41):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週二 5月 10, 2011 10:49 pm

pku 寫: Yes, I did, to that extent. What makes it interesting is that you are much better trained, yet, we have the same conversation. Did I tell you that you guys are only 「五十步與百步之間」?

YouTube - 黑線饅頭



he doesn't know himself is slow, but he did everything you did, so what you say on him may also reflects on yourself,

YouTube - 2011-03-27-MVI-8905-ski whistler.mov



So, comparing to the expert, aren't you guys not 「五十步與百步之間」?

YouTube - Mogul Logic, Mogul Skiing Instruction on Skiing in a Stacked Position



Nevertheless, compare your body posture @:19 sec and Chuck Martin's standard posture @:55 sec, your butt protruded backward, much too timid a posture.
Yup, your "bump skiing" is nothing more than "poled linked short turns" adapted to the terrain, which is the way most skiers ski mogul fields, which is different from "mogul skiing"; I used to ski the moguls both ways, until I busted my knees one day 25 years ago.
So, "mogul skiing" technique is higher than "bump skiing" technique?

:)
IS

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文章 pku » 週三 5月 11, 2011 2:33 am

taichiskiing 寫:
First, I never said I ski like an expert,

Second, I never said I improve fast and I always said I don't have much talent in skiing but I keep working on it while Norman is sitting at home and boost how talented he is.

Comapre with that guy, my skiing is just like a secondary school student and he is like professor.

CSIA teach ski on bumpy terrain and Mogulist ski compettion mogul field. So one is for recreation skier and one for competition. Of course the competition is a stronger way and need more physical strength.

25 years ago means you are only 38 years old , you should be able to recover from your injury. The head coach of the Korean Demo team got 7 times broken ACL by the time I meet him 10 years ago and I don't know how many more times he broke till now but he never give up.

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文章 pku » 週三 5月 11, 2011 2:40 am

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先做個過饅頭後的全身伸展拉直的動作來看看,不會做,做不出來就叫人看心理醫生,難怪太極要說你自我劃限不求長進囉。

要是看得懂L4的影片,會做你的進步就很快,而不是卡在這種程度了,在我看來,是你過度自戀囉。
I am going to meet TCS next season and see who's 不求長進. a guy ski almost everyday in a ski season comapare to a weekend skier.

看得懂 doesn't mean I can do as good as them, they get to that level not in few days.

你過度自戀 is the conclusion by lots of people here. Skier888, Snowrider, PS Boy, Carver, of course me and Beg and sometimes TCS when you try to argue with him.
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文章 PSBoy » 週三 5月 11, 2011 11:36 am

It may be better - 病態自戀狂. :face (50):

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 5月 12, 2011 1:53 am

pku 寫:
First, I never said I ski like an expert,
Guess not, as I've said, in this highend level of skiing, "if you cannot 'see' it, you probably cannot do it," as well, if you have no confidence to be an expert, then you're probably not, let alone you still have so many "holes" in your skiing.
Second, I never said I improve fast and I always said I don't have much talent in skiing but I keep working on it while Norman is sitting at home and boost how talented he is.
That is not an equal comparison; he has no skiing environments, so he can only try to figure out at home, but you do; yes, you ski better than most of your Chinese friends, but somehow because that you stuck at your level. There are more skiing than "moguls and bumps."
Comapre with that guy, my skiing is just like a secondary school student and he is like professor.
Here's also what makes us different; when I watched his video clip, I was watching his body positions, skis positions, and how he moves his body to coordinate with the skis to move his momentum, etc., so I may learn something, but you only know comparing "good" or "bad"; you don't "see" the technique, you cannot improve yourself with it.
CSIA teach ski on bumpy terrain and Mogulist ski compettion mogul field. So one is for recreation skier and one for competition. Of course the competition is a stronger way and need more physical strength.
What you don't "see" is that they are two different "techniques": CSIA teaches only a "dynamic short turns" adapted to a bumpy terrain, so the technique are not much different from other type of CSIA skiing; mogulists' "zipper-line" technique, moving the body like a caterpillar, is a total different body movement, thus a total different technique. It is more efficient and faster, that's why more/most competitors use this technique; nevertheless, it is energy-intensive highend maneuvers, so it does do a lot of pounding on the knees.
25 years ago means you are only 38 years old , you should be able to recover from your injury. The head coach of the Korean Demo team got 7 times broken ACL by the time I meet him 10 years ago and I don't know how many more times he broke till now but he never give up.
My knee injury was recovered long ago; nevertheless, while I was recovering, I developed the "gliding skiing," which I've called it“大力金剛走”, as my knees cannot take the pounding after the injury, the knees didn't want to take the "random" pounding force of the zipper-line mogul technique, I changed to maintain a constant touching/feel the snow at all the time, which later developed into the full-blown Taichi Skiing as today, moguls become immaterial.

I was proud of my ski thirty years without a major injury record until five years ago when I hit a tree trying to avoid a bozo cut into my line. Broke ACL 7 times only prove what I've said, 拙力太多.

:)
IS

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文章 pku » 週四 5月 12, 2011 2:39 am

[QUOTE=taichiskiing;12860]Guess not, as I've said, in this highend level of skiing, "if you cannot 'see' it, you probably cannot do it," as well, if you have no confidence to be an expert, then you're probably not, let alone you still have so many "holes" in your skiing.

I confess I still got many holes in my skiing, and I am trying to fill it and make it much less.



That is not an equal comparison; he has no skiing environments, so he can only try to figure out at home, but you do; yes, you ski better than most of your Chinese friends, but somehow because that you stuck at your level. There are more skiing than "moguls and bumps."

Is not a bad thing to figure out at home but still we need to test it on slope, and the worst thing is he even predict the incredible outcome before he even he tested. [/COLOR



Here's also what makes us different; when I watched his video clip, I was watching his body positions, skis positions, and how he moves his body to coordinate with the skis to move his momentum, etc., so I may learn something, but you only know comparing "good" or "bad"; you don't "see" the technique, you cannot improve yourself with it.

It's different point of view.




What you don't "see" is that they are two different "techniques": CSIA teaches only a "dynamic short turns" adapted to a bumpy terrain, so the technique are not much different from other type of CSIA skiing; mogulists' "zipper-line" technique, moving the body like a caterpillar, is a total different body movement, thus a total different technique. It is more efficient and faster, that's why more/most competitors use this technique; nevertheless, it is energy-intensive highend maneuvers, so it does do a lot of pounding on the knees.

I agree





My knee injury was recovered long ago; nevertheless, while I was recovering, I developed the "gliding skiing," which I've called it“大力金剛走”, as my knees cannot take the pounding after the injury, the knees didn't want to take the "random" pounding force of the zipper-line mogul technique, I changed to maintain a constant touching/feel the snow at all the time, which later developed into the full-blown Taichi Skiing as today, moguls become immaterial.

I was proud of my ski thirty years without a major injury record until five years ago when I hit a tree trying to avoid a bozo cut into my line. Broke ACL 7 times only prove what I've said, 拙力太多.

If one need to ski good, physical is a big issue. When one gets old, one can only be an owesome coach but hard to be an owesome skier. The way you ski can't be an owesome skier, only good for somebody lost the strength and flexibility. I'll also need to face this reality soon.

there is a lot of way to break a ACL, Like try to get up from a fall when one is still sliding
:)

That's it

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文章 taichiskiing » 週四 5月 12, 2011 9:53 pm

pku 寫:
Sounds like a "new year resolution," the question is how many years have you been saying that? Your "holes" in skiing knowledge/experience are more severe than your "holes" in techniques, and to shrink those holes, you need to expand your scoop of skiing; the "all-mountain" really means "all the mountain", that is, on and off pistes.
That is not an equal comparison; he has no skiing environments, so he can only try to figure out at home, but you do; yes, you ski better than most of your Chinese friends, but somehow because that you stuck at your level. There are more skiing than "moguls and bumps."

Is not a bad thing to figure out at home but still we need to test it on slope, and the worst thing is he even predict the incredible outcome before he even he tested.
He actually did, slow but for a do-it-yourselfer he did the forms correctly. You cannot see it, because you let your mutated egotism get ahead of your professionalism.

YouTube - 黑線饅頭


Here's also what makes us different; when I watched his video clip, I was watching his body positions, skis positions, and how he moves his body to coordinate with the skis to move his momentum, etc., so I may learn something, but you only know comparing "good" or "bad"; you don't "see" the technique, you cannot improve yourself with it.

It's different point of view.
Yup, a "high" coach view and a "low" instructor view.
What you don't "see" is that they are two different "techniques": CSIA teaches only a "dynamic short turns" adapted to a bumpy terrain, so the technique are not much different from other type of CSIA skiing; mogulists' "zipper-line" technique, moving the body like a caterpillar, is a total different body movement, thus a total different technique. It is more efficient and faster, that's why more/most competitors use this technique; nevertheless, it is energy-intensive highend maneuvers, so it does do a lot of pounding on the knees.

I agree
That concludes the proof of your mediocre bump skiing.
My knee injury was recovered long ago; nevertheless, while I was recovering, I developed the "gliding skiing," which I've called it“大力金剛走”, as my knees cannot take the pounding after the injury, the knees didn't want to take the "random" pounding force of the zipper-line mogul technique, I changed to maintain a constant touching/feel the snow at all the time, which later developed into the full-blown Taichi Skiing as today, moguls become immaterial.

I was proud of my ski thirty years without a major injury record until five years ago when I hit a tree trying to avoid a bozo cut into my line. Broke ACL 7 times only prove what I've said, 拙力太多.

If one need to ski good, physical is a big issue. When one gets old, one can only be an owesome coach but hard to be an owesome skier. The way you ski can't be an owesome skier, only good for somebody lost the strength and flexibility. I'll also need to face this reality soon.

there is a lot of way to break a ACL, Like try to get up from a fall when one is still sliding
:)

That's it
Given your observation depends on your basic [skiing] knowledge and experience, what you called "owesome skiing" others may call it "拙力太多." The only "owesome skiing" you know and show is "poled linked short turns" with quick movements; nevertheless, what you don't know is the "owesome skiing" you watched on video clips is only the illusion generated by the "owesome compressibility" of a highend video camera that compressed the skiing performance from 3D to 2D on the frontal shots; it loses its "awesome" intensity when it is shot from the back.

We have quite a few bumper skiers here at the Heavenly ski only mogul hills, mostly on the Little Dipper, and most of them do the "owesome skiing" cannot do the TTB, top-to-bottom without taking a break or two,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing Little Dipper, Heavenly.



I don't ski for "awesome skiing," but for "perfect turns," where "perfect turns" "turn without turning," :) and I don't pursue a technique that would break the ACL.

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: pair line-skiing



Your "that's it" still has long way to go.

:)
IS

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文章 skier888 » 週五 5月 13, 2011 12:38 am

taichiskiing 寫:Sounds like a "new year resolution," the question is how many years have you been saying that? Your "holes" in skiing knowledge/experience are more severe than your "holes" in techniques, and to shrink those holes, you need to expand your scoop of skiing; the "all-mountain" really means "all the mountain", that is, on and off pistes.



He actually did, slow but for a do-it-yourselfer he did the forms correctly. You cannot see it, because you let your mutated egotism get ahead of your professionalism.

YouTube - 黑線饅頭




Yup, a "high" coach view and a "low" instructor view.



That concludes the proof of your mediocre bump skiing.



Given your observation depends on your basic [skiing] knowledge and experience, what you called "owesome skiing" others may call it "拙力太多." The only "owesome skiing" you know and show is "poled linked short turns" with quick movements; nevertheless, what you don't know is the "owesome skiing" you watched on video clips is only the illusion generated by the "owesome compressibility" of a highend video camera that compressed the skiing performance from 3D to 2D on the frontal shots; it loses its "awesome" intensity when it is shot from the back.

We have quite a few bumper skiers here at the Heavenly ski only mogul hills, mostly on the Little Dipper, and most of them do the "owesome skiing" cannot do the TTB, top-to-bottom without taking a break or two,

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: shadow skiing Little Dipper, Heavenly.


I don't ski for "awesome skiing," but for "perfect turns," where "perfect turns" "turn without turning," :) and I don't pursue a technique that would break the ACL.

YouTube - Taichi Skiing/Flatboarding: pair line-skiing


Your "that's it" still has long way to go.

:)
IS
You voice are full of jealousy and envy. Do you even know why you encounter ridicule everywhere you go? You are the only one think your skiing overall is good. You have to consistently put down others to do it. The only place you are good at is gentle groomed runs. Your skiing fall apart everywhere else.

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文章 skier888 » 週五 5月 13, 2011 12:58 am

When people disagree with norman, they disagree about his exaggeration. Nobody has disagreed about his changes/improvements. It is ok to say – “I feel a lot of improvements” but just don’t say “I improve much more than you/everybody/CSIA” or “I ski much better than …” when the that is not most people see.

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#38 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週五 5月 13, 2011 3:07 am

skier888 寫:You voice are full of jealousy and envy. Do you even know why you encounter ridicule everywhere you go? You are the only one think your skiing overall is good. You have to consistently put down others to do it. The only place you are good at is gentle groomed runs. Your skiing fall apart everywhere else.
Your little knowledge doesn't shed the light for you, if you are not lying through your teeth.

:)
IS

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#39 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing

文章 pku » 週五 5月 13, 2011 6:19 am

taichiskiing 寫:Sounds like a "new year resolution," the question is how many years have you been saying that? Your "holes" in skiing knowledge/experience are more severe than your "holes" in techniques, and to shrink those holes, you need to expand your scoop of skiing; the "all-mountain" really means "all the mountain", that is, on and off pistes.



He actually did, slow but for a do-it-yourselfer he did the forms correctly. You cannot see it, because you let your mutated egotism get ahead of your professionalism.





Yup, a "high" coach view and a "low" instructor view.



That concludes the proof of your mediocre bump skiing.



Given your observation depends on your basic [skiing] knowledge and experience, what you called "owesome skiing" others may call it "拙力太多." The only "owesome skiing" you know and show is "poled linked short turns" with quick movements; nevertheless, what you don't know is the "owesome skiing" you watched on video clips is only the illusion generated by the "owesome compressibility" of a highend video camera that compressed the skiing performance from 3D to 2D on the frontal shots; it loses its "awesome" intensity when it is shot from the back.

We have quite a few bumper skiers here at the Heavenly ski only mogul hills, mostly on the Little Dipper, and most of them do the "owesome skiing" cannot do the TTB, top-to-bottom without taking a break or two,

[I don't ski for "awesome skiing," but for "perfect turns," where "perfect turns" "turn without turning," :) and I don't pursue a technique that would break the ACL.



:)
IS
The truth of your" turn without turn " is you know turning in good skiing need technique and strength and you don't have both so you rather not doing it to so your incompetence. making your so call perfect turns, either tranverse or straight down the hill

Just like an old man can't run and can only walk and tease people running 拙力太多 :face (340): :face (340):

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#40 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing

文章 taichiskiing » 週五 5月 13, 2011 7:03 am

pku 寫:The truth of your" turn without turn " is you know turning in good skiing need technique and strength and you don't have both so you rather not doing it to so your incompetence. making your so call perfect turns, either tranverse or straight down the hill

Just like an old man can't run and can only walk and tease people running 拙力太多 :face (340): :face (340):

Not sure if you know what you are talking about, or just bad English; you only need a little strength to "ride the gravity," and Taichi Skiing can keep a cripple old man ski faster/better than you proves it.

Gone rollerblading, :)
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