moguls and bumps skiing
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Another 偽裝大師 but still much MUCH better than 偽裝大師 Norman, SEE ALL THE COMMENTS THERE,
YouTube - Slopestyle - Pro Skiing Tip #3 - The Bumps Expert
YouTube - Slopestyle - Pro Skiing Tip #3 - The Bumps Expert
#3 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
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笨眼力跟笨技術
第一篇的動作你真的看不懂,你現在的滑法就是第二篇這一篇呀,要不要我幫你把這兩段跟你的剪在一起給你看。pku 寫:Another 偽裝大師 but still much MUCH better than 偽裝大師 Norman, SEE ALL THE COMMENTS THERE,

笨眼力跟笨技術

#4 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
See what is his title: Pro ski tips, the way he put the skill together is bad. You don't even know what skill are.lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
第一篇的動作你真的看不懂,你現在的滑法就是第二篇這一篇呀,要不要我幫你把這兩段跟你的剪在一起給你看。
笨眼力跟笨技術![]()
Did I say I am a pro
YouTube - 黑線饅頭
See how your 笨技術 or 無技術
滑得這麼丑的偽裝大師, , 廢
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#5 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
YouTube - How To Ski Moguls - Absorptionpku 寫:moguls and bumps skiing
Good "mogul skiing," but there are better performance out there,
YouTube - Mikael Kingsbury 14y.o. freestyle moguls ski
Things to watch, knees together and even/平, shins together and move in sync, and skis are parallel and even/平 to each other.
pku 寫:Another 偽裝大師 but still much MUCH better than 偽裝大師 Norman, SEE ALL THE COMMENTS THERE,
YouTube - Slopestyle - Pro Skiing Tip #3 - The Bumps Expert
Good "bump skiing," but barely: two legs move independently, skis fork and uneven; nevertheless, here's how you do, what do you think yours comparing to his?
YouTube - 2011-03-27-MVI-8905-ski whistler.mov
:)
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#6 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
So nevertheless, is this "pro tips" good or bad?pku 寫:See what is his title: Pro ski tips, the way he put the skill together is bad. You don't even know what skill are.
Yup, you did, and consequently proved to be a terminal L2; if not, what can you give/say in "pro tips"?Did I say I am a pro
YouTube - 黑線饅頭
So, you rather continue your shameless net-bashing instead of discussing, why bother open up a new thread?See how your 笨技術 or 無技術
滑得這麼丑的偽裝大師, , 廢
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#7 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
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順手剪,我第一次剛練成,動作不熟是正常的,你的動作那麼熟練,可惜還是不正確,也是正常的。
YouTube - 基本饅頭滑法比較03.wmv
眼力這麼笨,你得不到答案的,PRO?反對比較多也算是?你想這麼想也隨你。pku 寫:See what is his title: Pro ski tips, the way he put the skill together is bad. You don't even know what skill are.
Did I say I am a pro
See how your 笨技術 or 無技術
滑得這麼丑的偽裝大師, , 廢

順手剪,我第一次剛練成,動作不熟是正常的,你的動作那麼熟練,可惜還是不正確,也是正常的。

YouTube - 基本饅頭滑法比較03.wmv
#8 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
So, you rather continue run away like coward when you got challenge? TCMSI L167.taichiskiing L167 寫:So nevertheless, is this "pro tips" good or bad?
Yup, you did, and consequently proved to be a terminal L2; if not, what can you give/say in "pro tips"?
YouTube - 黑線饅頭
So, you rather continue your shameless net-bashing instead of discussing, why bother open up a new thread?
:)
IS


對、太極猴猴當跟屁蟲的功夫是ー流的。taichiskiing L167 寫:典型電腦毐素人的本色,太極猴猴當跟屁蟲的功夫不錯。
:)
IS


果然是不折不扣的衣冠禽獸、自已躱在猴洞隔河空喊、祢龜縮就不說了‧屎滾尿流、懦夫般逃的太極猴猴、只会賴/否認;賴/否認不下去就婆婦罵街以亂視聽‧你這个 TCSIA L167,冒充教練、誤人子弟、悲哉。衣冠禽獸 taichiskiing L167 寫:「君子泰而不驕‧小人驕而不泰。」懦夫是只敢在網路上挑戦的人,隔河空喊,無勇無謀,無恥就不說了‧想來你們 Whistler Group 就是這樣子了;你們自以為是 CSIA L2 的教練就可以來這裡表現,表現不出來就賴/否認;賴/否認不下去就婆婦罵街以亂視聽‧你們兩個假洋教練的滑雪知識本來是應該可以對這論壇有很多貢獻的,結果卻是只有表現你們“婆婦罵街”的能力而無所頁獻‧悲哉,你們 terminal L2‧省點大家的精力時間,另外兩篇重覆的就不回了。
:)
IS



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#9 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
no, you have not 練成Martin Heckelman動作, not even close.lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
眼力這麼笨,你得不到答案的,PRO?反對比較多也算是?你想這麼想也隨你。
順手剪,我第一次剛練成,動作不熟是正常的,你的動作那麼熟練,可惜還是不正確,也是正常的。
YouTube - 基本饅頭滑法比較03.wmv
- Your timing is wrong. You exaggerate the up movement in the wrong place. You did it at the top. This causes your upper body to move up and down. This is definitely not obvious in Mr Heckelman's video. This is probably your major porblem but it is not hard to fix
- You are also in the back seat a lot so you lost ski contact on the back side of the bumps a lot. What you should do is extend toward troughs and keep your upper body quite.
- Your counter turn is not correct. You can see your arm and shoulder is always behind your pole. Most people will have problem because it will feel exposed and is a scary feeling when you do it correctly, especially on the steep. You may enjoy the sensation when you can do it correctly.
- You basically have major fore-aft problem. You don’t use your whole ski length.
- These observation are based on comparison to to Martin Heckelman video you put out.
#10 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
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我的動作流程是對的,有些小地方需要修正一下就好了,這是需要練起的,如果第一步都不對的話,練到後來,修到後來,也不會達到最後的目標的。
所以PKU練得再強,也只是SLOPETYEL那短片的動作而已,而我熟練再修正一些小問題後,我的動作就能達到第一篇那種動作了,我有這信心是因為我的核心技術可以讓我進步這麼快且練得出來的。
你說的那些其他的小問題,要修正太簡單的,所以我說再練六天的饅頭,我這動作的完成型就差不多能完功了。
說了你也不明白,自從練出這第一步後,我對一般人能想看懂我的動作已不再指望了,以前我的動作就看不懂了,現在更不可能看得懂了,不然我有信心進步很快是從哪裏來?
所以想靠語言打擊我是不可能的,萬一四年後會被我跟我徒弟追過,那就太丟臉啦。
你不能理解我的意思,就像我說你不能理解TDK對我說了什麼,是一樣的。skier888 寫:no, you have not 練成Martin Heckelman動作, not even close.
it is you 眼力這麼笨. can't tell the difference.
- Your timing is wrong. You exaggerate the up movement in the wrong place. You did it at the top. This causes your upper body to move up and down. This is definitely not obvious in Mr Heckelman's video. This is probably your major porblem but it is not hard to fix
- You are also in the back seat a lot so you lost ski contact on the back side of the bumps a lot. What you should do is extend toward troughs and keep your upper body quite.
- Your counter turn is not correct. You can see your arm and shoulder is always behind your pole. Most people will have problem because it will feel exposed and is a scary feeling when you do it correctly, especially on the steep. You may enjoy the sensation when you can do it correctly.
- You basically have major fore-aft problem. You don’t use your whole ski length.
- These observation are based on comparison to to Martin Heckelman video you put out.
我的動作流程是對的,有些小地方需要修正一下就好了,這是需要練起的,如果第一步都不對的話,練到後來,修到後來,也不會達到最後的目標的。
所以PKU練得再強,也只是SLOPETYEL那短片的動作而已,而我熟練再修正一些小問題後,我的動作就能達到第一篇那種動作了,我有這信心是因為我的核心技術可以讓我進步這麼快且練得出來的。
你說的那些其他的小問題,要修正太簡單的,所以我說再練六天的饅頭,我這動作的完成型就差不多能完功了。
說了你也不明白,自從練出這第一步後,我對一般人能想看懂我的動作已不再指望了,以前我的動作就看不懂了,現在更不可能看得懂了,不然我有信心進步很快是從哪裏來?
所以想靠語言打擊我是不可能的,萬一四年後會被我跟我徒弟追過,那就太丟臉啦。

#11 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
很好笑耶。你英文爛到tdk的話都被你誤解了lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
你不能理解我的意思,就像我說你不能理解TDK對我說了什麼,是一樣的。
我的動作流程是對的,有些小地方需要修正一下就好了,這是需要練起的,如果第一步都不對的話,練到後來,修到後來,也不會達到最後的目標的。
所以PKU練得再強,也只是SLOPETYEL那短片的動作而已,而我熟練再修正一些小問題後,我的動作就能達到第一篇那種動作了,我有這信心是因為我的核心技術可以讓我進步這麼快且練得出來的。
你說的那些其他的小問題,要修正太簡單的,所以我說再練六天的饅頭,我這動作的完成型就差不多能完功了。
說了你也不明白,自從練出這第一步後,我對一般人能想看懂我的動作已不再指望了,以前我的動作就看不懂了,現在更不可能看得懂了,不然我有信心進步很快是從哪裏來?
所以想靠語言打擊我是不可能的,萬一四年後會被我跟我徒弟追過,那就太丟臉啦。![]()


#12 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
See how i tip the ski tips down after I pass the bump compare with that Pro with ski tips shoot to the sky. The result is I can bend the skis to get a smooth ride but he just drop the ski without any pressure at the tips, makes him get a hit.lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
眼力這麼笨,你得不到答案的,PRO?反對比較多也算是?你想這麼想也隨你。
順手剪,我第一次剛練成,動作不熟是正常的,你的動作那麼熟練,可惜還是不正確,也是正常的。
YouTube - 基本饅頭滑法比較03.wmv
Anyway, you won't understand this.
With your upper body moving so much, it's hard to control the presuure so make your turns so rough.
#13 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
Bumps absorption is very important in moguls skiing The video I show about bump asorption is teaching people how to absorpt the bumps.taichiskiing 寫:YouTube - How To Ski Moguls - Absorption
Good "mogul skiing," but there are better performance out there,
YouTube - Mikael Kingsbury 14y.o. freestyle moguls ski
Things to watch, knees together and even/平, shins together and move in sync, and skis are parallel and even/平 to each other.
YouTube - Slopestyle - Pro Skiing Tip #3 - The Bumps Expert
Good "bump skiing," but barely: two legs move independently, skis fork and uneven; nevertheless, here's how you do, what do you think yours comparing to his?
YouTube - 2011-03-27-MVI-8905-ski whistler.mov
:)
IS
In CSIA, we call presure control. to user lower joints to smooth out the pressure.
The video is show is a very good junior moguls competitor.
My skiing on the run is better than that ski pro. His skiing is far to be a good skier and you can see all the comment are teasing him.
If you think his skiing is good, then you should make some positive comment there.
YouTube - CSIA Free Skiing
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#14 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
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你只看到我的上半身移動的問題,卻不了解我的整體運用的方法,所以你不會理解的。
我提示的那麼明顯,你已看不懂我的意思,這影片我也不剪了,白費力氣。
簡單的講其中一點,你不會真正製造全身自然彈性性能,腿有伸展,身體沒有真正伸展動到,如果會做,證明一下來看看,在過饅頭頂下饅頭時把全身伸展拉直來看看。
我可以肯定的說你看不懂這段短片的真正動作要點。pku 寫:Bumps absorption is very important in moguls skiing The video I show about bump asorption is teaching people how to absorpt the bumps.
In CSIA, we call presure control. to user lower joints to smooth out the pressure.
The video is show is a very good junior moguls competitor.
My skiing on the run is better than that ski pro. His skiing is far to be a good skier and you can see all the comment are teasing him.
If you think his skiing is good, then you should make some positive comment there.
YouTube - CSIA Free Skiing
你只看到我的上半身移動的問題,卻不了解我的整體運用的方法,所以你不會理解的。
我提示的那麼明顯,你已看不懂我的意思,這影片我也不剪了,白費力氣。
簡單的講其中一點,你不會真正製造全身自然彈性性能,腿有伸展,身體沒有真正伸展動到,如果會做,證明一下來看看,在過饅頭頂下饅頭時把全身伸展拉直來看看。
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#15 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
Yup, that is one way, when you are young and still have knees to wrack;pku 寫:Bumps absorption is very important in moguls skiing The video I show about bump asorption is teaching people how to absorpt the bumps.
A more efficient and faster technique is to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar; watch the kid.In CSIA, we call presure control. to user lower joints to smooth out the pressure.
Yes, that's how highend competitors train and compete; talents alone won't get you there.The video is show is a very good junior moguls competitor.
So, why show us? Nevertheless, that's how you ski "instructor" see things.My skiing on the run is better than that ski pro. His skiing is far to be a good skier and you can see all the comment are teasing him.
He is in-balance, fluent, and technically correct, even though, too much brute force, nevertheless, he may think that's his "energetic performance," and that is how a "coach" should see. Your performance is smoother than his but his skiing is more energetic and faster than you, whom you think is "better" skier? [or such a question makes sense at all?]If you think his skiing is good, then you should make some positive comment there.
YouTube - CSIA Free Skiing
Those are "bump skiing" techniques.
Here's another look at "to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar" "mogul skiing."
YouTube - Mogul Logic, Mogul Skiing Instruction on Skiing in a Stacked Position
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#16 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
[QUOTE=taichiskiing;12783]Yup, that is one way, when you are young and still have knees to wrack;
A more efficient and faster technique is to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar; watch the kid.
Yes, that's how highend competitors train and compete; talents alone won't get you there.
You should give this advice to Norman.
So, why show us? Nevertheless, that's how you ski "instructor" see things.
He is in-balance, fluent, and technically correct, even though, too much brute force, nevertheless, he may think that's his "energetic performance," and that is how a "coach" should see. Your performance is smoother than his but his skiing is more energetic and faster than you, whom you think is "better" skier? [or such a question makes sense at all?]
YouTube - CSIA Free Skiing
Those are "bump skiing" techniques.
This is the style I learn, not so fast so less demanding on the knees. Turns are more round so not good on the compettition moguls field.
Here's another look at "to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar" "mogul skiing."
YouTube - Mogul Logic, Mogul Skiing Instruction on Skiing in a Stacked Position
This guy is world cup mogulist, no doubt about it, those CSIA guy can't never be as good as him on the bumps.
A more efficient and faster technique is to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar; watch the kid.
Yes, that's how highend competitors train and compete; talents alone won't get you there.
You should give this advice to Norman.
So, why show us? Nevertheless, that's how you ski "instructor" see things.
He is in-balance, fluent, and technically correct, even though, too much brute force, nevertheless, he may think that's his "energetic performance," and that is how a "coach" should see. Your performance is smoother than his but his skiing is more energetic and faster than you, whom you think is "better" skier? [or such a question makes sense at all?]
YouTube - CSIA Free Skiing
Those are "bump skiing" techniques.
This is the style I learn, not so fast so less demanding on the knees. Turns are more round so not good on the compettition moguls field.
Here's another look at "to use abdomen muscles to absorb and extend the body like a caterpillar" "mogul skiing."
YouTube - Mogul Logic, Mogul Skiing Instruction on Skiing in a Stacked Position
This guy is world cup mogulist, no doubt about it, those CSIA guy can't never be as good as him on the bumps.
#17 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
You need to ask the comments from TCSlelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
我可以肯定的說你看不懂這段短片的真正動作要點。
你只看到我的上半身移動的問題,卻不了解我的整體運用的方法,所以你不會理解的。
我提示的那麼明顯,你已看不懂我的意思,這影片我也不剪了,白費力氣。
簡單的講其中一點,你不會真正製造全身自然彈性性能,腿有伸展,身體沒有真正伸展動到,如果會做,證明一下來看看,在過饅頭頂下饅頭時把全身伸展拉直來看看。
with 全身伸展, one will raise the center of mass which is one of the worst thing in bumps or moguls skiing. Right now you are not 全身伸展 but only the upper body.


#18 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
你是惡人先告狀lelo 寫:(代 norman 貼回覆)
我可以肯定的說你看不懂這段短片的真正動作要點。
你只看到我的上半身移動的問題,卻不了解我的整體運用的方法,所以你不會理解的。
我提示的那麼明顯,你已看不懂我的意思,這影片我也不剪了,白費力氣。
簡單的講其中一點,你不會真正製造全身自然彈性性能,腿有伸展,身體沒有真正伸展動到,如果會做,證明一下來看看,在過饅頭頂下饅頭時把全身伸展拉直來看看。




你不要忘了,tdk 說你是進階的初學者。然後你陰文又會錯意,造成你陰錯陽差,亂練
#19 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
若至大師不要聽skier888的、他是在害妳、妳就繼續這様練、再10个滑雪天妳就天下無敵。skier888 寫:你是惡人先告狀你是唯一不懂的人吧
所以你就說全部人都不懂
你在饅頭頂伸展,這是最費力的
你不要忘了,tdk 說你是進階的初學者。然後你陰文又會錯意,造成你陰錯陽差,亂練



#20 回覆: moguls and bumps skiing
I don't have that passion to help a man who has the symptom of mental disorder. It is so risky, e.g. personal attack. The best solution is report to police.skier888 寫:
- Your timing is wrong. You exaggerate the up movement in the wrong place. You did it at the top. This causes your upper body to move up and down. This is definitely not obvious in Mr Heckelman's video. This is probably your major porblem but it is not hard to fix
- You are also in the back seat a lot so you lost ski contact on the back side of the bumps a lot. What you should do is extend toward troughs and keep your upper body quite.
- Your counter turn is not correct. You can see your arm and shoulder is always behind your pole. Most people will have problem because it will feel exposed and is a scary feeling when you do it correctly, especially on the steep. You may enjoy the sensation when you can do it correctly.
- You basically have major fore-aft problem. You don’t use your whole ski length.
- These observation are based on comparison to to Martin Heckelman video you put out.
