為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
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#1 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
個人覺得因 wedge 代表了在極接近 neutral 時, 甚至過了 neutral, old outside skis 舊山腳 還是在受力狀態, 所以重心還是相對在山上, 這時候如把舊山腳的力強行拿走便要出現兩個可能的情況:
1. 新山腳相對在重心山上方向, 這樣這彎還是可以, 因為新山板是可以成功轉邊. (imagine a very wide stance) 所以不會 release 的人是應該用 wide stance 的.
2. 新山腳相對在重心山下方向, 這樣這彎不可以自然開彎, 只能靠另加力的去重把重心拋至相對在山下才可以轉彎.
1. 新山腳相對在重心山上方向, 這樣這彎還是可以, 因為新山板是可以成功轉邊. (imagine a very wide stance) 所以不會 release 的人是應該用 wide stance 的.
2. 新山腳相對在重心山下方向, 這樣這彎不可以自然開彎, 只能靠另加力的去重把重心拋至相對在山下才可以轉彎.
#2 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
I see. Wedge should include 2 problems instead of 1...Just a joke!
#3 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
我只是猜想一下, 你有什麼見解不妨提出一下, 這裡大師多的是, 不談便不知自己想的有什麼對, 什麼錯.PSBoy 寫:I see. Wedge should include 2 problems instead of 1...Just a joke!

#4 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
I like this attitude so much!ams 寫:我只是猜想一下, 你有什麼見解不妨提出一下, 這裡大師多的是, 不談便不知自己想的有什麼對, 什麼錯.
Did you see my previous thread about the difference between wedge and A-frame? So, I don't have 什麼見解 on the topic. Just listen patiently!
#5 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
I didn't response to the thread because I m not so sure of the difference. I m sure about wedge but A frame. I m listening too.PSBoy 寫:Did you see my previous thread about the difference between wedge and A-frame? So, I don't have 什麼見解 on the topic. Just listen patiently!

#6 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
我的看法是,要避免 wedge 的著眼點並不在於是否易於換邊!
大家都知道半制動最容易滑也最容易換邊,但為何半制動比併腿差?
以我的經驗當雪板 wedge 時,是屬於煞車狀態,一有煞車腿就必須額外施力,也就更容易累:另外 wedge 也會降低速度,這對某些人來說當然也是不好的 ....
大家都知道半制動最容易滑也最容易換邊,但為何半制動比併腿差?
以我的經驗當雪板 wedge 時,是屬於煞車狀態,一有煞車腿就必須額外施力,也就更容易累:另外 wedge 也會降低速度,這對某些人來說當然也是不好的 ....
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taichiskiing
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#7 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
前面說過,滑雪的原動力是地心吸引力‧所以滑雪的好壞就在我們怎樣有效率的利用這個地力‧ Wedge stance 是用兩個雪板的內沿,所以一直是處於剎車況態,用以控制速度,這種滑法是在“扺抗”地力,所以滑起來比較沒有效率‧比較有效率的滑法是“利用”地力來加速,叫作“騎”地力/ride the gravity,那是平行滑雪所追求‧滑雪技術的高低就分在這裡:“抵抗”地力是低級滑雪,“利用”地力是高級滑雪。lelo 寫:我的看法是,要避免 wedge 的著眼點並不在於是否易於換邊!
大家都知道半制動最容易滑也最容易換邊,但為何半制動比併腿差?
以我的經驗當雪板 wedge 時,是屬於煞車狀態,一有煞車腿就必須額外施力,也就更容易累:另外 wedge 也會降低速度,這對某些人來說當然也是不好的 ....
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#9 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
Could you give me an example to further explain your point?skier666 寫:平板腳也容易造成這問題
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taichiskiing
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#10 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
還是看你怎麼“站”/用力‧平板平行滑雪,板是平的,但是外腳(陽)用/加重內沿(陰〕,而內腳(陰〕用/加重外沿(陽),在太極滑雪這叫作“一陰一陽”,陰陽合百泰生,“活”‧所以沒有問題。skier666 寫:平板腳也容易造成這問題
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IS
#11 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
Frequently, flatfoot arches collapse toward big toe edges when weighted.PSBoy 寫:Could you give me an example to further explain your point?
#12 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
I see. Is it possible to use a tailor-made foot bed to fix this problem?skier666 寫:Frequently, flatfoot arches collapse toward big toe edges when weighted.
#13 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
It is possible but not always. There are a few variables to consider. Or one can learn what Taichiskiing is talking about. I have seen people "cure" flatfoot so I think what he says make sense.PSBoy 寫:I see. Is it possible to use a tailor-made foot bed to fix this problem?
#14 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
Thanks, skier666skier666 寫:It is possible but not always. There are a few variables to consider. Or one can learn what Taichiskiing is talking about. I have seen people "cure" flatfoot so I think what he says make sense.
#15 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
This thread.
BTW, I do have foot bed and other work done to my boot. It adds about $400 to the cost to the boots
BTW, I do have foot bed and other work done to my boot. It adds about $400 to the cost to the boots
#16 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
Thanks, I will have a look!skier666 寫:This thread.
BTW, I do have foot bed and other work done to my boot. It adds about $400 to the cost to the boots
My molded foot bed and liner (Intuition) are around UD$600.

#17 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
I don't know Intuition has footbed. Putting a liner in will only cost me additional $150.PSBoy 寫:Thanks, I will have a look!
My molded foot bed and liner (Intuition) are around UD$600.![]()
#18 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
The foot beds are another brand but I forgot it...heheskier666 寫:I don't know Intuition has footbed. Putting a liner in will only cost me additional $150.
Which brand of your liners?
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taichiskiing
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#19 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
You guys are really know how to spend money. :) Do you read Chinese? Here's my ideas about foot bed, you don't need them,PSBoy 寫:Thanks, I will have a look!
My molded foot bed and liner (Intuition) are around UD$600.![]()
“從中國功夫的眼光來看,只要你能站你就能滑雪‧滑雪最重要及最基本的技術就是平衝,而我們最好的平衝能力就是站在腳上‧問題是怎樣站‧
跟據我們身体的結構,如果我們在平地上站平及站直 (natural and neutral),我們是雙腳等重而前腳掌與腳跟平衡(一樣重)‧但是在山坡上,要是我們還是這樣站我們就向後倒(backseated),所以我們需要把我們的重心向前移‧把重心向前移呢,我們需要站在前腳掌上‧但是,提起腳跟站在前腳掌上很累人也不穩,所以我們需要在身上找一點來代替腳跟,我們用小腿壓在雪靴的壓力來代替腳跟,然後壓雪靴來控制雪板‧然後,刻滑(carving)是用腳大指頭邊及腳板心壓外腳(outside ski)內沿(inside edge),同時用小指頭邊壓內腳(inside ski)外沿(outside edge),体重平均分配,或是六成四成,六成在外腳‧平衡,快速,剩下的就只有不要怕了‧”
http://www.goski.com.tw/forum/showpost. ... stcount=41
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IS
#20 回覆: 為什麼 wedge 是一個問題?
Thanks, taichiskiing, for your kind explanationtaichiskiing 寫:...“從中國功夫的眼光來看,只要你能站你就能滑雪‧滑雪最重要及最基本的技術就是平衝,而我們最好的平衝能力就是站在腳上‧問題是怎樣站...
Now, I have more information about how to stand (問題是怎樣站), thanks a lot!
Carving is not my cup of tea honestly because I don't like to ski fast, whereas skidding (referring to PMTS terminology, i.e. brushed carve) is my good partner for the all mountains skiing. I think the main reason is that I don't have sufficient physical and technical ability to do carving
If you don't mind, I may share my boot fitting experience to you. Actually, the boot fitting service includes boot alignment, foot bed and liner. After the professional service, I feel that I can easily control my skis via my boots especially in the ungroomed slope. I can also do one-footed skiing. Perhaps, I may also do the same thing if I know Tai Chi at a certain level.
Thanks again for your sharing!