Why don't we stop discussing who skies better or who does not?
Why don't we start finding out what consists of the good skiing?
IMHO, based on what I learned, good skiing needs to demonstrate 5 elements:
1. Good balance
2. Good edging control
3. Good rotary movement
4. Good pressure control
5. Good directional movement
Please add what you can think of to the list. (Only after we define what the good skiing is, we can compare who is good and who is not!)
#2 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 1:20 am
由 pku
snowrider 寫:Don't fight! Don't fight!
Why don't we stop discussing who skies better or who does not?
Why don't we start finding out what consists of the good skiing?
IMHO, based on what I learned, good skiing needs to demonstrate 5 elements:
1. Good balance
2. Good edging control
3. Good rotary movement
4. Good pressure control
5. Good directional movement
Please add what you can think of to the list. (Only after we define what the good skiing is, we can compare who is good and who is not!)
For me, racing is not the type I want. I like more on the demonstration way of skiing ( demo team )
My idot are like Richard Berger ( Austrian demo team ) , Norman Kreutz ( CSIA ), and a lot of Japanese high level skier.
Especially Richard Berger, he ski fast, and dynamic with good control and look elegant.
Their skiing are blending all the skills you post with the right amount on almost all situation.
#3 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 1:30 am
由 snowrider
pku 寫:For me, racing is not the type I want. I like more on the demonstration way of skiing ( demo team )
My idot are like Richard Berger ( Austrian demo team ) , Norman Kreutz ( CSIA ), and a lot of Japanese high level skier.
Especially Richard Berger, he ski fast, and dynamic with good control and look elegant.
Their skiing are blending all the skills you post with the right amount on almost all situation.
Yes, I remember that the Coordination is one of your CSIA's good skiing elements. Can you add more elements that you may think that are important.
大膽突破，多方嚐試, that means one need to ski a lot , can't just sit at home and talk
#6 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 1:57 pm
由 normanding
我的「大膽突破，多方嚐試。」的原義是。
當發現自己進步很小，甚至幾乎沒進步時，就需要突破自己原來舊有的思維，找尋多方向及方法嚐。
最可怕的是自己的思想固化，無法納新及創造。
#7 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週五 4月 08, 2011 3:38 pm
由 beg
normanding 寫:我的「大膽突破，多方嚐試。」的原義是。
當發現自己進步很小，甚至幾乎沒進步時，就需要突破自己原來舊有的思維，找尋多方向及方法嚐。
最可怕的是自己的思想固化，無法納新及創造。
妳的伴侶的雪杖朝天應是大膽突破、妳試試看吧、妳自己進步很小只因顧着吹牛。
#8 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 12:34 am
由 pku
normanding 寫:我的「大膽突破，多方嚐試。」的原義是。
當發現自己進步很小，甚至幾乎沒進步時，就需要突破自己原來舊有的思維，找尋多方向及方法嚐。
最可怕的是自己的思想固化，無法納新及創造。
Before the 大膽突破, one must have a sound fundamental skill.
Like the 2011 Korean demo team is trying to put their martial art into their skiing. Since those demonstrator got very sound fundamental skill so the outcome is still strong skiing.
But some low level skier try to 大膽突破, the outcome is just a joke. e.g. 雪杖朝天
#9 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週六 4月 09, 2011 11:39 am
由 pku
Some good skiing by Korean,I like this kind of technical skiing
You have got to be kidding ! I guess that is too high a level of skiing for you to understand
#14 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 12:35 am
由 lelo
Observer 寫:
You have got to be kidding ! I guess that is too high a level of skiing for you to understand
我滑不出來，不表示我看不懂。
我也貼了兩段影片，跟韓國的那段影片比一下，我想知道你的看法 ....
#15 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 6:06 am
由 Observer
lelo 寫:我滑不出來，不表示我看不懂。
我也貼了兩段影片，跟韓國的那段影片比一下，我想知道你的看法 ....
Sorry, my wording was a bit harsh.
Look at these 2 montages of WC skiers. They all look like sitting back.
#16 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 10:28 am
由 pku
Observer 寫:Sorry, my wording was a bit harsh.
Look at these 2 montages of WC skiers. They all look like sitting back.
For intermediate skier took some lesson by some lower level instructor , it's very easy to confuse what is sitting back as they were told to be more forward.
A good stance is like sitting on a invisible chair or simpley said doing a squat. A sit back stance is hanging on the calve of the boots.
A sit back stance can't turn the skis that fast since the front of the skis is not engaged. The Korean guys turn so fast and well control their turns, it is impossible for them to sit back, may be occasionally one or two turns.
#17 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 1:08 pm
由 PSBoy
lelo 寫:我也貼了兩段影片，跟韓國的那段影片比一下
You are able to find out the answer if study the techniques for transition.
#18 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 7:58 pm
由 lelo
pku 寫:
A sit back stance can't turn the skis that fast since the front of the skis is not engaged. The Korean guys turn so fast and well control their turns, it is impossible for them to sit back, may be occasionally one or two turns.
韓國人的後坐姿勢靠前彎上半身調回來了！
這也是個方法啦！
#19 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 8:01 pm
由 lelo
Observer 寫:Sorry, my wording was a bit harsh.
Look at these 2 montages of WC skiers. They all look like sitting back.
那為什麼 XSIA 不教這種滑法？
#20 回覆: Good Skiing
發表於 : 週一 4月 11, 2011 8:07 pm
由 lelo
PSBoy 寫:You are able to find out the answer if study the techniques for transition.
