PSIA Level 4

[snowrider]

"So, while the names have changed periodically, that's the way it's worked in PSIA-RM for quite some time. TA--now RMT--is a "level," DCL--now E1 (Examiner 1)--is a job on the Education Staff. (Unlike the old DCL, E1's actually do conduct our Cert. 1 exams, so we felt the need to change the name.) And many instructors still refer to TA as "Level 4"--because that's exactly what it is.

And the TA/RMT/Level 4 standard does indeed represent a significant jump beyond Level 3. The pass rate is typically 10-15% and, of course, you must be Level 3 to apply.

Especially with our apparent obsession with naming and renaming with obscure acronyms, I wouldn't mind at all if we just called the spade a spade and went with simply, "Level 4."

Best regards,
Bob"

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/103 ... st_1339884

For you 有心人, the thread "Top Certs" makes a good read, for now.

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/103677/top-certs

:)
IS

A colleague just got selected as a new member of our division's Alpine Development Team. I found the following link explains different tracks:
http://www.psia-e.org/ed/alpine/AlpineCertLadder.pdf

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根劇 epicski Bob Barnes 的解釋，以中文來說 PSIA 跟 CSIA 教練的程度/分法「大同小異」—一對一、二對二、三對三—只是 CSIA 有L4而 PSIA 用不一樣的頭銜像 "Trainer Accreditation," "Development Team," "Apprentice Examiner," 等等，名稱不定，所以“簡稱”之 L4 可亦，而實值上也跟 CSIA 的 L4 的程度差不多‧而我也同意他的說法。

"I do not think that anyone would try to compare CSIA Level 4 with PSIA Level 3. Although the standards are not identical, the levels for PSIA and CSIA Levels 1, 2, and 3 are very similar. Beyond that, CSIA has "Level 4," while PSIA has what is variously referred to as "Trainer Accreditation," "Development Team," "Apprentice Examiner," or the like, depending on the division. (PSIA consists of a number of regional divisions that are each somewhat autonomous, while all under the wing of PSIA-National.)

At least in PSIA, Level 3 is what is referred to as "Full Certification," essentially meaning that it represents a level of skiing proficiency, knowledge, understanding, experience, and teaching ability sufficient to teach pretty much anyone, in pretty much any condition and terrain (all but the very most extreme, in my opinion). I believe CSIA Level 3 is similar. Although many instructors informally refer to our "Trainer Accreditation" (now known as "Rocky Mountain Trainer") as Level 4, it is not officially called that, because the intent is that the job of a "Level 4 instructor" begins to shift more toward training of instructors and perhaps eventually to becoming an Examiner, rather than teaching the public. Not all instructors aspire to become trainers, for any number of reasons, so we have kept the designation of Full Certified Instructor for Level 3.

I may be mistaken, but I believe that CSIA's Level 4 is similar, in that most Level 4's do serve as trainers, and Examiners are selected from the Level 4 pool."—Bob Barnes—

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/103 ... st_1339791


:)
IS

Nice try to cover your big joke. But the person who exam and train L4 is still a L4, it doesn't make him a L5. Same as PSIA L3,"Rocky Mountain Trainer" is still a L3, it is not L4.